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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #480 on: March 21, 2021, 08:05:35 PM »
are there any border points that allow us citizens w/o any family connections to cross into canada and back?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #481 on: March 21, 2021, 08:46:02 PM »
not that you can rely on.  They are stricter on the way into Canada than into the US.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #482 on: March 21, 2021, 10:08:50 PM »
Correct, but if your coming to the NY area most are going through  the Vermont Border rather then NY, they are much more lenient  it adds about an hour to travel time.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #483 on: March 21, 2021, 11:05:36 PM »
Correct, but if your coming to the NY area most are going through  the Vermont Border rather then NY, they are much more lenient  it adds about an hour to travel time.
I think @m65 was asking about being able to get into Canada, not into the US.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #484 on: March 22, 2021, 11:44:19 AM »
I'm not sure if your quotations are referring to people ho aren't actually married, but I did get through with my wife who's a US citizen (I'm not). It was up to the supervisor on duty so my wife had to go inside and speak to him but he said yes right away (I don't even think he asked for our marriage certificate, which we brought).
which crossing?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #485 on: March 22, 2021, 11:50:02 AM »
which crossing?
Yes, I forgot to mention in my post- my DP is from the Peace Bridge.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #486 on: March 22, 2021, 12:43:00 PM »
Ontario Superior Court has dismissed a request for an interim injunction against the government's quarantine hotel program. The consitutionality of the program will be decided in a few weeks.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #487 on: March 22, 2021, 06:29:50 PM »
I think @m65 was asking about being able to get into Canada, not into the US.
@Yehudaa is correct in regards to my query.
is the vermont border allowing us citizens to enter canada even if they have no canadian family?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #488 on: March 23, 2021, 09:23:07 PM »
Further to the above, I am hearing that some border agents have required proving "dependency" - in other words, being under 22 and single, may not automatically deem someone to be a dependent, notwithstanding that that is the way I would have interpreted the regulation.
Notwithstanding the formal wording of the regulation (which may or may not have been changed,  even if not published yet;) the Canadian government website has been updated to explicitly state that only those under 18 will be exempted from hotel quarantine. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice/mandatory-hotel-stay-air-travellers.html#a2

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #489 on: March 25, 2021, 03:27:33 AM »
Don't know if it will help anyone.
 But quick TR with how it went with crossing the border.

 Booked two Flights from JFK-BUF.
 
 Flew to BUF, had a car pick them up from BUF Airport to cross the border, and take them to their final destination in Toronto.

  Flight was a breeze, at the border they asked 212 Questions. Took about an HR at the border till they went in and out..
  Needed them to show the rapid PCR taken within 72 hours and the antibodies test they took.
 They required for them to take another test in the airport, didn't ask for insurance cards or anything else, so I take it that it was free.
   And then they were sent off with another kit, for themselves to take a 3rd test in 10 days from the one's taken in the airport, and they would come pick it up in Toronto from them.

 Flight was at 2:55pm and they got to Toronto at 7:15ish BH.
 
 For the way home to NY a direct flight will do beH.

 For those that will ask yes we all had a candian Citizenship card, we're dual citizens.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #490 on: March 25, 2021, 11:46:29 AM »
How do you check in your health over a three day Yom tov when you come from us to canada

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #491 on: March 25, 2021, 11:48:02 AM »
Don't know if it will help anyone.
 But quick TR with how it went with crossing the border.

 Booked two Flights from JFK-BUF.
 
 Flew to BUF, had a car pick them up from BUF Airport to cross the border, and take them to their final destination in Toronto.

  Flight was a breeze, at the border they asked 212 Questions. Took about an HR at the border till they went in and out..
  Needed them to show the rapid PCR taken within 72 hours and the antibodies test they took.
 They required for them to take another test in the airport, didn't ask for insurance cards or anything else, so I take it that it was free.
   And then they were sent off with another kit, for themselves to take a 3rd test in 10 days from the one's taken in the airport, and they would come pick it up in Toronto from them.

 Flight was at 2:55pm and they got to Toronto at 7:15ish BH.
 
 For the way home to NY a direct flight will do beH.

 For those that will ask yes we all had a candian Citizenship card, we're dual citizens.

Which border crossing did they enter from? Was there a wait by the border or took an hour just for the questions? They need an antibody test? Thanks

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #492 on: March 25, 2021, 11:58:56 AM »
How do you check in your health over a three day Yom tov when you come from us to canada
Of the many many people that I know who quarantined, I don't think any of them ever used the ArriveCAN app at all. I'm not sure if it's different if you start using it and then stop as opposed to never using it, but in my mind the worst scenario is that they get suspicious that you didn't check in an they come knock on your door and if you're keeping the quarantine then that's not an issue. I don't think they can penalize you for not using it, can they?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #493 on: March 25, 2021, 01:35:16 PM »
Of the many many people that I know who quarantined, I don't think any of them ever used the ArriveCAN app at all. I'm not sure if it's different if you start using it and then stop as opposed to never using it, but in my mind the worst scenario is that they get suspicious that you didn't check in an they come knock on your door and if you're keeping the quarantine then that's not an issue. I don't think they can penalize you for not using it, can they?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #494 on: March 25, 2021, 06:37:45 PM »
Here is what I am considering: Uber from BUF to Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls for approximately $40USD. 

Then, Uber from the Rainbow Bridge to Enterprise car rental in Niagara Falls, ON is no more than $10CAD.  A one day one way rental to Toronto is $95CAD all in.

Is there anything wrong with my plan?

In case anyone is interested, I crossed at the Rainbow Bridge & everything went better than I expected.  Uber from BUF to Rainbow Bridge took 20 minutes and cost $40.  There is a turnstile to pass through to enter the bridge to Canada.  However, if you ring the bell, the US CBP official will unlock the gate and you can wheel your baggage through.  Crossing the bridge by foot was shorter than I expected.  After speaking to the Canadian customs officer, I had to take another Covid test.  There are Red Cross personnel to assist.  They give you another test kit for the 10th day.  The 10 day test is to be done with a nurse via video and the sample will be picked up.  Then I took an Uber to Enterprise car rental in Niagara Falls, ON and drove to Toronto.  Glad I crossed via land and avoided the whole hotel mess.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #495 on: March 25, 2021, 07:50:18 PM »
Which border crossing did they enter from? Was there a wait by the border or took an hour just for the questions? They need an antibody test? Thanks

Peace Bridge.
 Very little cars. Mostly essential workers which didn't need a covid test.

  We were by the border for 30-45 min with questions and a covid test, no antibodies test needed. (Seems they had for backup)
 All you need is the negative PCR test within 72 Hrs of traveling.







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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #496 on: March 25, 2021, 08:35:30 PM »
Peace Bridge.
 Very little cars. Mostly essential workers which didn't need a covid test.

  We were by the border for 30-45 min with questions and a covid test, no antibodies test needed. (Seems they had for backup)
 All you need is the negative PCR test within 72 Hrs of traveling.








I didn't receive those papers, so I presume you didn't use the ArriveCan app?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #497 on: March 25, 2021, 08:58:55 PM »
I didn't receive those papers, so I presume you didn't use the ArriveCan app?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #498 on: March 25, 2021, 09:35:02 PM »
I didn't receive those papers, so I presume you didn't use the ArriveCan app?
They seem to give out all sorts of papers. I got those papers once, a nicer flyer another time, and my brother just came in and got nothing. Go figure.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #499 on: March 25, 2021, 10:25:24 PM »
They seem to give out all sorts of papers. I got those papers once, a nicer flyer another time, and my brother just came in and got nothing. Go figure.

The CBSA officer didn't ask for my ArriveCan receipt - she knew the address where I would be quarantining just from scanning my passport.