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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #520 on: March 30, 2021, 02:01:43 PM »
What's the point in mandating them in first place ?
 https://twitter.com/SwitchHealthCA?s=20
I agree to that.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #521 on: March 30, 2021, 02:04:50 PM »
It doesnt give me the option of scheduling a pickup. Does that happen after the test?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #522 on: March 30, 2021, 02:07:59 PM »
Yes or you can call purolator directly
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #523 on: March 31, 2021, 07:05:01 AM »
How much did they increase in late December
They didn't increase.

Personal vehicle passengers crossing the US/Canada Border:

Nov 2018, Nov 2019 = 3.5m
Dec 2018, Dec 2019  = 3.8m
Aug 2020 = 318,288
Sep 2020 = 306,576
Oct 2020 = 318,505
Nov 2020 = 269,071
Dec 2020 = 278,669

https://data.bts.gov/Research-and-Statistics/Border-Crossings-by-Mode-Border-and-State/erjk-mneb
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #524 on: March 31, 2021, 08:38:48 AM »


They didn't increase.

Personal vehicle passengers crossing the US/Canada Border:

Nov 2018, Nov 2019 = 3.5m
Dec 2018, Dec 2019  = 3.8m
Aug 2020 = 318,288
Sep 2020 = 306,576
Oct 2020 = 318,505
Nov 2020 = 269,071
Dec 2020 = 278,669

https://data.bts.gov/Research-and-Statistics/Border-Crossings-by-Mode-Border-and-State/erjk-mneb

A one or two day increase of 80 00 fits into those numbers very easily
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #525 on: March 31, 2021, 08:49:19 AM »

A one or two day increase of 80 00 fits into those numbers very easily
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. You'd need far more (~100x) than 8000 to demonstrate a Christian holiday travel spike equivalent to 8000 Jews.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #526 on: April 01, 2021, 09:37:04 PM »
What's the point in mandating them in first place ?
 https://twitter.com/SwitchHealthCA?s=20
I sent them a DM on Twitter and they did not respond.  I need to do the 10 day test tomorrow.  Can you schedule an appointment or do you just log in and wait?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #527 on: April 01, 2021, 11:40:17 PM »
Not sure if this is well-known already, but I just heard that anyone flying from YYZ to the US can get a free rapid test in Pearson between 72 and 2.5 hours prior to departure as part of a research study.

Details are here. Book an appointment with Fionet here.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #528 on: April 02, 2021, 12:20:02 AM »
I sent them a DM on Twitter and they did not respond.  I need to do the 10 day test tomorrow.  Can you schedule an appointment or do you just log in and wait?
It doesn't look like anyone is really interested you should take the test
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #529 on: April 02, 2021, 02:18:00 AM »
Not sure if this is well-known already, but I just heard that anyone flying from YYZ to the US can get a free rapid test in Pearson between 72 and 2.5 hours prior to departure as part of a research study.

Details are here. Book an appointment with Fionet here.

Is this about a captive audience of research candidates, or running a research test at an airport (where people are more likely to be healthy/asymptomatic and only testing due to the travel regulations) to try and skew the results in a certain direction?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #530 on: April 02, 2021, 12:46:14 PM »
It doesn't look like anyone is really interested you should take the test
So I did the 10 day COVID test this morning, however, Purolator will not pick up until Monday.  What a joke. 

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #531 on: April 02, 2021, 01:13:47 PM »
I heard today what schtick the bachurim coming home from Israel, who were over 18 had to do to avoid being sent to hotels... It worked bh.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #532 on: April 05, 2021, 12:14:22 PM »
I heard today what schtick the bachurim coming home from Israel, who were over 18 had to do to avoid being sent to hotels... It worked bh.
Can you either post or DM me with the details? I have a nephew who is learning in Toronto who went home for Pesach, but is looking to avoid the hotels when he comes back....

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #533 on: April 05, 2021, 03:33:06 PM »
I heard today what schtick the bachurim coming home from Israel, who were over 18 had to do to avoid being sent to hotels... It worked bh.
What did they do?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #534 on: April 05, 2021, 03:53:03 PM »
Family from Toronto is coming to south Florida to visit for Pesach. Grateful for any input on proposed itinerary/Covid planning, particularly contingency plans for getting from Buffalo over the border into Canada. All relevant parties have been vaccinated.

- Thursday March 18, within 72 hours of departure: Obtain negative PCR COVID test result in Toronto.
-Sunday March 21: Fly YYZ-FLL non-stop: With a negative covid test, I would not anticipate any issues for Canadian citizens at CBP in YYZ, and certainly not on arrival in FLL.

-Last day of chol-hamoed, Friday April 2: obtain negative PCR test result in Miami

-Monday April 5: Fly non-stop FLL-BUF: I do not anticipate any issues on arrival into New York

- April 5: Rent rental car at Buffalo from National. This entailed a three day minimum reservation to get a one-way car rental to YYZ and many agencies were blocking them entirely. I see National is now sold out and am concerned that the reservation may not be honored if National is sold out or decides it doesn't want to see another car disappear into Canada (with no demand for rentals in the opposite direction to bring them back to U.S.). Any first hand experience would be much appreciated.

- April 5: Cross land border into Canada, obtain 2 PCR test kits at border for immediate use and for 14 days later and quarantine at home for 14 days following arrival.

-April 19 - Take second PCR test and leave quarrantine.


UPDATE: My in-laws had no issue picking up their one way rental car from National this afternoon at BUF and crossed Queenston-Lewiston Bridge. Immigration took about 10 minutes to check the documentation. After self-administering PCR tests, they were clear to leave. They're now enroute to YYZ to return the National rental car and pick up their own car from long-term parking.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #535 on: April 05, 2021, 03:59:58 PM »
UPDATE: My in-laws had no issue picking up their one way rental car from National this afternoon at BUF and crossed Queenston-Lewiston Bridge. Immigration took about 10 minutes to check the documentation. After self-administering PCR tests, they were clear to leave. They're now enroute to YYZ to return the National rental car and pick up their own car from long-term parking.

How much was the 3 day car rental?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #536 on: April 05, 2021, 04:13:17 PM »
How much was the 3 day car rental?
Approximately $200 + .40/mile. However, I would expect final invoice to only show a charge for one day, so total will be around $65 + mileage.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #537 on: April 05, 2021, 04:39:44 PM »
Approximately $200 + .40/mile. However, I would expect final invoice to only show a charge for one day, so total will be around $65 + mileage.
Alamo wanted almost $700 for a 3 day rental and I wasn't going to take the chance that they wouldn't refund the extra 2 days, so I passed.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #538 on: April 07, 2021, 05:17:53 PM »
Based off that article (which can't be definitively an accurate source), it would seem that plenty of people don't think (again not a good data point) it's effective.Where talking about people and relatives who are together with each from 5am-7:59pm. Does Covid only spread after 8?!
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #539 on: April 07, 2021, 08:05:56 PM »

It's dps like this that lead me to say:
I welcome any accurate source, I don't think that's very possible with the country in such a lockdown...
I would also love to hear a reason why my visiting a friend is only a problem after 8.
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