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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #100 on: March 17, 2020, 05:10:11 PM »
source?
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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #101 on: March 17, 2020, 05:29:48 PM »
It's just simple how can he be certain that it's not 3 days?
You are the one claiming to know the facts, but in reality you're no better than the ones who say (and have been saying for decades) the world will come to an end in 12 years because of climate change.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #102 on: March 17, 2020, 05:32:40 PM »
You are the one claiming to know the facts, but in reality you're no better than the ones who say (and have been saying for decades) the world will come to an end in 12 years because of climate change.
Let it go
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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #103 on: March 17, 2020, 05:57:37 PM »
I can tell you that I don't get my medical updates from hatzala.. and I'm tooting my horn.. I'm talking between hospital heads and surgeons and er specialists..

I know nothing of the situation in New York I can tell you that right now the health care system is at near capacity without this having hit in Miami
 

Good luck

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #104 on: March 17, 2020, 09:19:37 PM »
  Source? I still haven't seen anyone (other than @chevron ) say we are 3 days away from running out of ventilators. You don't seem to understand, I'm not saying there is no shortage, all I'm saying is don't make up facts to try to scare people.
If people continue to be not scared, they will continue to take life as usual unless forced otherwise.  NOT GOOD ENOUGH.If they are scared, maybe they will start thinking about themselves and their loved ones.  Maybe then they will start taking the precautions necessary to slow down the anticipated (c'vsh) exponential rise about to happen.  This is what is called "flattening the curve".  So the bottom line is that we are going to run out and must flatten the curve to buy time until the vaccine is out.  This will also give us some breathing room in an overcrowded hospital crisis.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #105 on: March 17, 2020, 11:02:14 PM »
  Source? I still haven't seen anyone (other than @chevron ) say we are 3 days away from running out of ventilators. You don't seem to understand, I'm not saying there is no shortage, all I'm saying is don't make up facts to try to scare people.
https://twitter.com/HaMeturgeman/status/1240110370070638592

Maybe he was off by two days

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #106 on: March 17, 2020, 11:11:55 PM »
Not true for all of NJ. Passaic and Bergen County are in lockdown.
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Passaic has not had minyanim for the most part since Sunday and schools have been closed since Thursday/Friday.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #108 on: March 17, 2020, 11:49:29 PM »
I'm done arguing...

I probably got about 100 gray hairs today.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #109 on: March 17, 2020, 11:51:43 PM »
https://twitter.com/HaMeturgeman/status/1240110370070638592
Not to minimize the situation, but isn't Sloan only Cancer patients?
I.e. how's this relevant to the "average" hospital?

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #110 on: March 17, 2020, 11:51:54 PM »
We'll all be going gray by the time this plague is done.
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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #111 on: March 18, 2020, 12:22:29 AM »
If people continue to be not scared, they will continue to take life as usual unless forced otherwise.  NOT GOOD ENOUGH.If they are scared, maybe they will start thinking about themselves and their loved ones.  Maybe then they will start taking the precautions necessary to slow down the anticipated (c'vsh) exponential rise about to happen.  This is what is called "flattening the curve".  So the bottom line is that we are going to run out and must flatten the curve to buy time until the vaccine is out.  This will also give us some breathing room in an overcrowded hospital crisis.
Are you advocating for making up facts to scare people?

https://twitter.com/HaMeturgeman/status/1240110370070638592

Maybe he was off by two days
WOW
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2020, 05:03:21 AM »
https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/03/13/corona-is-slowing-down-humanity-will-survive-says-biophysicist-michael-levitt/

Logic... Logic , pilpul.. that's why all frum people think they are smarter than the CDC etc.

Great article, I bet I'll be seeing this in the coming week by people arguing against closing shulls.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #115 on: March 18, 2020, 07:22:59 AM »
Logic... Logic , pilpul.. that's why all frum people think they are smarter than the CDC etc.

Great article, I bet I'll be seeing this in the coming week by people arguing against closing shulls.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #116 on: March 18, 2020, 07:33:01 AM »
Message from my shul last night. 1/2 Message from the Rov: Everyone should stay at home as much as possible. This includes not coming to shul for davening and learning. May 2/2 we hear b'suros tovos.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #117 on: March 18, 2020, 09:29:28 AM »
http://news.mit.edu/2019/umbulizer-sloan-health-care-innovation-prize-0225

Welcome to USA, the land of over-regulation, unions and red tape.
If we were China we would be mass producing these around the clock and using every means we have to distribute them, including military, Amazon, Uber....

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #118 on: March 18, 2020, 10:01:06 AM »
Message from my shul last night. 1/2 Message from the Rov: Everyone should stay at home as much as possible. This includes not coming to shul for davening and learning. May 2/2 we hear b'suros tovos.
Similar message, now all I have to do is wait 2 days and ppll will take social distancing seriously  and I can leave my house!
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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #119 on: March 18, 2020, 10:14:23 AM »
http://news.mit.edu/2019/umbulizer-sloan-health-care-innovation-prize-0225

Welcome to USA, the land of over-regulation, unions and red tape.
If we were China we would be mass producing these around the clock and using every means we have to distribute them, including military, Amazon, Uber....
When it fails because of a lack of testing, who're you going to blame?
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