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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #120 on: March 18, 2020, 11:23:46 AM »
this is why it's so important for everybody to stay home

https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/covid-hospitals

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #121 on: March 18, 2020, 11:46:17 AM »
When it fails because of a lack of testing, who're you going to blame?
Not necessarily this model, but we don’t need state of the art $25,000 ventilators.
Maybe one from 80s or 90s that is basic and cheaper to mass produce.

The bottom line is: failure to mass produce and distribute ventilators, EXTREMELY QUICKLY, will equal preventable deaths. This thing is spreading like wildfire.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #122 on: March 18, 2020, 11:53:31 AM »
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/supply-chain/with-8-covid-19-patients-memorial-sloan-kettering-has-a-week-s-supply-of-face-masks.html

The hospital confirmed that at least five employees and three patients have been diagnosed with COVID-19,
Oh boy. My father-in-law was discharged from Sloan on Purim after a bone marrow transplant for leukemia. He's still going in twice a week for checkup/treatment. Hopefully all the cases are in the main hospital, because he's going to the brand Koch building. They were giving out masks in the lobby to those who wanted the one day I brought him there.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #123 on: March 18, 2020, 08:01:27 PM »
In the last 24 hours, In Italy, which is under severe lockdown , saw the death of 475 people! Yikes! Soon they won’t be able to help any new patients.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #124 on: March 18, 2020, 08:15:42 PM »
In the last 24 hours, In Italy, which is under severe lockdown , saw the death of 475 people! Yikes! Soon they won’t be able to help any new patients.
Hopefully not, but it seems they’ll pass China in the next day or two.
(If you trust China’s numbers)

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2020, 08:28:26 PM »
Hopefully not, but it seems they’ll pass China in the next day or two.
(If you trust China’s numbers)
Does that mean the lockdown isnt doing the trick? Then why arent we thinking of better solutions?

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2020, 08:35:03 PM »
This study predicts that in an unmitigated epidemic, that is to say without drastic measures, the US will see 2.2 million deaths.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2020, 09:21:30 PM »
This study predicts that in an unmitigated epidemic, that is to say without drastic measures, the US will see 2.2 million deaths.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
And mitigation stretches out the pandemic for 12+ months. At what point is the medicine more painful than the illness?
Risk is opportunity

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2020, 09:58:48 PM »
Does that mean the lockdown isnt doing the trick? Then why arent we thinking of better solutions?
Maybe it was too late.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2020, 10:22:12 PM »
Maybe it was too late.

In that case what are waiting for? People should only leave their house for food, medicine and a quick stroll to preserve sanity.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #130 on: March 18, 2020, 10:28:11 PM »
In that case what are waiting for? People should only leave their house for food, medicine and a quick stroll to preserve sanity.
people are doing that.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #131 on: March 19, 2020, 11:29:34 AM »
I feel like punching him in his face

https://www.yiddish24.com/interviews/12/15494
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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #132 on: March 19, 2020, 11:34:56 AM »
I feel like punching him in his face

https://www.yiddish24.com/interviews/12/15494

He downplayed it because Trump initially downplayed it & now he got caught in no mans land so might as well run with it. Very silly of him. He doesnt chap what kind of hatred is being created by chasidishe people not listening. Is it a minority? Yes! But still... you need full cooperation from EVERYONE! Yidden, spring breakers etc. realistically it wont happen until a full shutdown is ordered (and its coming)

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #133 on: March 19, 2020, 02:42:18 PM »
Hopefully not, but it seems they’ll pass China in the next day or two.
(If you trust China’s numbers)
done. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-death-toll-italys-is-now-higher-than-chinas.html

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #134 on: March 19, 2020, 09:12:28 PM »
Exactly what I got in trouble for

https://mobile.kikar.co.il/abroad/article/352089

People need to stop blaming other's, aknowledged that you erred.

when you blame others it just means that either you're not willing to accept that you're wrong You simply don't have the capacity to think for yourself and you were just following what everybody else told you

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #135 on: March 19, 2020, 10:27:24 PM »
Another 400+ dead in Italy over the last 24 hours. Their stopping to count.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #136 on: March 20, 2020, 01:17:32 AM »
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-covid19-italy-hospital-deaths-us-warning.html

You need to read this article and others like it and you can essentivity of what these people are telling you of what they have gone through and what they are going through and what they would have done differently if they had 10 days notice like we do.

The next person that tells me that they did not get one that they didn't know it was coming I'm going to punch them in the face because you didn't know because you were told because I'm telling you now because the people in Italy are telling you and people are dying endlessly and they are telling you this is what's going to happen if you don't listen.



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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #137 on: March 20, 2020, 07:15:44 AM »
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-covid19-italy-hospital-deaths-us-warning.html

You need to read this article and others like it and you can essentivity of what these people are telling you of what they have gone through and what they are going through and what they would have done differently if they had 10 days notice like we do.

The next person that tells me that they did not get one that they didn't know it was coming I'm going to punch them in the face because you didn't know because you were told because I'm telling you now because the people in Italy are telling you and people are dying endlessly and they are telling you this is what's going to happen if you don't listen.
They have a new rallying cry besides "it is just the flu". Now it is "we have a game changer miracle cure".
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #138 on: March 20, 2020, 07:28:14 AM »
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-covid19-italy-hospital-deaths-us-warning.html

You need to read this article and others like it and you can essentivity of what these people are telling you of what they have gone through and what they are going through and what they would have done differently if they had 10 days notice like we do.

The next person that tells me that they did not get one that they didn't know it was coming I'm going to punch them in the face because you didn't know because you were told because I'm telling you now because the people in Italy are telling you and people are dying endlessly and they are telling you this is what's going to happen if you don't listen.
If you think posts like this make people listen to you , than i can recommend a good therapist.
May you slide down the banister of happiness & get many splinters of success up your career.

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Re: A lesson from Italy ?! Rabbanim wake up!!
« Reply #139 on: March 20, 2020, 09:03:40 AM »
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-covid19-italy-hospital-deaths-us-warning.html

You need to read this article and others like it and you can essentivity of what these people are telling you of what they have gone through and what they are going through and what they would have done differently if they had 10 days notice like we do.

The next person that tells me that they did not get one that they didn't know it was coming I'm going to punch them in the face because you didn't know because you were told because I'm telling you now because the people in Italy are telling you and people are dying endlessly and they are telling you this is what's going to happen if you don't listen.



I think the real issue is getting the picture to those who don't have any internet and and social media. They are really a few steps behind.