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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #260 on: May 04, 2020, 09:22:00 PM »
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #261 on: May 04, 2020, 09:26:07 PM »

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #262 on: May 04, 2020, 09:30:37 PM »
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why do they think its in their hands to decide? its a halacha shaliah and should be decided by halacha authority

just imagine your child's baby sitter will say "we will make a determination how much you should pay" strange isn't it
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #263 on: May 04, 2020, 11:46:33 PM »
why do they think its in their hands to decide? its a halacha shaliah and should be decided by halacha authority

just imagine your child's baby sitter will say "we will make a determination how much you should pay" strange isn't it
I don't think so. They will send you a bill for what they think is right (hopefully with rabbinic guidance). Challenge it if you want.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #264 on: May 04, 2020, 11:55:54 PM »
From school in NY.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #265 on: May 05, 2020, 01:27:21 AM »
From school in NY.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #266 on: May 05, 2020, 07:42:01 AM »
Any updated guidance on playgroups? My friend just told me that his child's playgroup is insisting they got a psak that your obligated to pay in full. But if financially difficult you should call to discuss a payment plan.(not even a discount)

I wonder where and why someone would pasken like that.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #267 on: May 05, 2020, 07:48:31 AM »
are they providing any services, zoom or the like?

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #268 on: May 05, 2020, 07:50:25 AM »
Any updated guidance on playgroups? My friend just told me that his child's playgroup is insisting they got a psak that your obligated to pay in full. But if financially difficult you should call to discuss a payment plan.(not even a discount)

I wonder where and why someone would pasken like that.

They have a written contract or any sort of formal commitment?
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #269 on: May 05, 2020, 07:57:20 AM »
Any updated guidance on playgroups? My friend just told me that his child's playgroup is insisting they got a psak that your obligated to pay in full. But if financially difficult you should call to discuss a payment plan.(not even a discount)

I wonder where and why someone would pasken like that.
Are they even providing remote classes?

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #270 on: May 05, 2020, 09:23:07 AM »
Any updated guidance on playgroups? My friend just told me that his child's playgroup is insisting they got a psak that your obligated to pay in full. But if financially difficult you should call to discuss a payment plan.(not even a discount)

I wonder where and why someone would pasken like that.
I'll say it again either go for din torah or go for a pshara, 1 side asking a ruv is like me asking my mother what to do

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #271 on: May 05, 2020, 09:48:36 AM »
From school in NY.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #272 on: May 05, 2020, 09:54:04 AM »
Are they even providing remote classes?
its little kids. max they are providing is a news letter

I'll say it again either go for din torah or go for a pshara, 1 side asking a ruv is like me asking my mother what to do
i agree with this. just wondering how everyone is dealing with it
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #273 on: May 05, 2020, 10:41:17 AM »
its little kids. max they are providing is a news letter
i agree with this. just wondering how everyone is dealing with it
My son's 3-4yo class is doing a zoom davening, 2 videos, a zoom music/dance/exercise and projects (have to pick up the packets every week or two) each day. My wife asked for more and they added an extra zoom with the morah. I could see how younger kids would not be very workable though.

Having said that, it's still not what you'd get out of school being open, and so I can understand people feeling they should be paying less. We decided we're continuing with full payment, but I know the head of the school has said a lot of people aren't continuing payment.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #274 on: May 05, 2020, 12:11:01 PM »
its little kids. max they are providing is a news letter
i agree with this. just wondering how everyone is dealing with it
my wife teaches 3 yr olds and does over an hour and prepares weekly packets including arts n crafts, newsletter, and photos

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #275 on: May 05, 2020, 12:19:13 PM »
My son's 3-4yo class is doing a zoom davening, 2 videos, a zoom music/dance/exercise and projects (have to pick up the packets every week or two) each day. My wife asked for more and they added an extra zoom with the morah. I could see how younger kids would not be very workable though.

Those activities are great but they are not at all doable unless a parent is fully involved. To many working parents it's as good as nothing. Acknowledging that the teachers are working hard is easy, but we need an acknowledgement back that they haven't taken the parents out of the equation. If no refunds are due, we should get a salary from the school too because we've become their employees.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #276 on: May 05, 2020, 12:27:09 PM »
Those activities are great but they are not at all doable unless a parent is fully involved. To many working parents it's as good as nothing. Acknowledging that the teachers are working hard is easy, but we need an acknowledgement back that they haven't taken the parents out of the equation. If no refunds are due, we should get a salary from the school too because we've become their employees.
many (most?) parents are working from home or on a modified schedule. They can pop in to check on the kid or trouble shoot a technical issue. If the Morah is adapting well to online classes, she'll keep most of the kids focused. Hardly worth nothing. I'd say most parents who are home value the classes if they are done correctly.
Again, not ideal, but neither is COVID19.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #277 on: May 05, 2020, 12:35:47 PM »
many (most?) parents are working from home or on a modified schedule. They can pop in to check on the kid or trouble shoot a technical issue.
Totally depends on the age and personality of the kid(s)
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #278 on: May 05, 2020, 12:47:37 PM »
Those activities are great but they are not at all doable unless a parent is fully involved. To many working parents it's as good as nothing. Acknowledging that the teachers are working hard is easy, but we need an acknowledgement back that they haven't taken the parents out of the equation. If no refunds are due, we should get a salary from the school too because we've become their employees.
Personally I'm able have my son sit nearby and do his videos/zooms with minimal intervention. But if a parent has a situation like that - either because the kid needs too much oversight, or their WAH situation(s) don't allow for it - then they're stuck regardless. What should they the school do? It doesn't really help if the school allows the parent to pull the kid out and give a refund - the parent will still be stuck.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #279 on: May 05, 2020, 02:53:31 PM »
All accredited (higher ed) yeshivos just got a $500,000 lump sum grant from the CARES act, even the tiny ones with 20 or 30 guys total. The $500,000 is total so any yeshiva that got under $500,000 in the first round of CARES funding now got enough to top them out at $500,000.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/wesleywhistle/2020/05/02/betsy-devos-sends-coronavirus-money-to-help-tiny-colleges-did-they-need-it/amp/
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