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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #420 on: May 19, 2020, 12:00:49 AM »
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very interesting

Assuming they are paying their staff in full, how do they intend on covering the shortfall?

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #421 on: May 19, 2020, 12:17:51 AM »
very interesting

Assuming they are paying their staff in full, how do they intend on covering the shortfall?
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #422 on: May 19, 2020, 12:20:43 AM »
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its Israeli mosdos, there is no sba ppp,
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #423 on: May 19, 2020, 12:25:56 AM »
its Israeli mosdos, there is no sba ppp,
oops. didnt look closely enough at where it's from, thought its brooklyn branches

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #424 on: May 19, 2020, 12:27:09 AM »
oops. didnt look closely enough at where it's from, thought its brooklyn branches
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #425 on: September 03, 2020, 06:26:03 PM »
As the new school year begins, it's common knowledge that future is extremely unpredictable. Nobody can tell you if schools and playgroups will still be open in a month. Does the halacha change now that both parties know a shutdown is a possibility?

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #426 on: November 03, 2020, 09:13:08 PM »
My 2 cents is if a school closes and operates remotely where schooling is similar, they can charge normal tuition.

However when schools closes and they merely provide a 15-30 min voice recording for the entire day (like some of my kids), they should not be able to charge full tuition. Sadly this isn’t the case.

I don’t understand why the schools feel that since they made choice of paying the teachers their full salary regardless of amount of teaching they’re doing, we the parents have to pay the price.


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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #427 on: November 03, 2020, 09:16:59 PM »
My 2 cents is if a school closes and operates remotely where schooling is similar, they can charge normal tuition.

However when schools closes and they merely provide a 15-30 min voice recording for the entire day (like some of my kids), they should not be able to charge full tuition. Sadly this isn’t the case.

I don’t understand why the schools feel that since they made choice of paying the teachers their full salary regardless of amount of teaching they’re doing, we the parents have to pay the price.


I hope you're not representing NIRC right now (Ner Israel Rabbinical College)
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #428 on: November 03, 2020, 09:18:23 PM »
My 2 cents is if a school closes and operates remotely where schooling is similar, they can charge normal tuition.

However when schools closes and they merely provide a 15-30 min voice recording for the entire day (like some of my kids), they should not be able to charge full tuition. Sadly this isn’t the case.

I don’t understand why the schools feel that since they made choice of paying the teachers their full salary regardless of amount of teaching they’re doing, we the parents have to pay the price

Why didn’t you take this up with your children’s school when you registered them for the 2020-2021 school year? I know why, because they would have sent you packing and your kids wouldn’t be in any school. But you registered them anyway knowing what the possibilities are, so you should pay up.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #429 on: November 03, 2020, 09:20:21 PM »
Why didn’t you take this up with your children’s school when you registered them for the 2020-2021 school year? I know why, because they would have sent you packing and your kids wouldn’t be in any school. But you registered them anyway knowing what the possibilities are, so you should pay up.
You just answered your own question. He doesn't have a choice.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #430 on: November 03, 2020, 09:38:23 PM »
You just answered your own question. He doesn't have a choice.

But unlike March, he knew what he was getting into. Some of this school year will have in-person classes. If teachers don’t be getting paid during lockdown they’ll quit and find another job.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #431 on: November 03, 2020, 09:50:47 PM »
But unlike March, he knew what he was getting into.
And? What can he do about it?

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #432 on: November 03, 2020, 09:53:53 PM »
And? What can he do about it?
Send his kids to public school, then Nechomas Yisroel will pull them out and pay their tuition.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #433 on: November 03, 2020, 10:06:20 PM »
And? What can he do about it?

Nothing. Add it to the cons column on your “pros and cons of COVID” chart.

Send his kids to public school, then Nechomas Yisroel will pull them out and pay their tuition.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #434 on: November 03, 2020, 11:03:09 PM »
But unlike March, he knew what he was getting into. Some of this school year will have in-person classes. If teachers don’t be getting paid during lockdown they’ll quit and find another job.

As I’ve said above, I am fine with paying $15k/ yr to schools when they’re actually having a full day of school, whether in class or remote.
My issue is when they go “remote” and think that short audio recording plus an occasional conference call is sufficient.
If the teachers want their full salary, let them earn it. They should work just as many hours whether in class or not.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #435 on: November 03, 2020, 11:07:03 PM »
Why didn’t you take this up with your children’s school when you registered them for the 2020-2021 school year? I know why, because they would have sent you packing and your kids wouldn’t be in any school. But you registered them anyway knowing what the possibilities are, so you should pay up.

As a matter of fact, I did. This year and last.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #436 on: November 03, 2020, 11:19:13 PM »
As a matter of fact, I did. This year and last.

What did they tell you this year? Tough luck?
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #438 on: April 18, 2023, 11:30:17 AM »
I wrote a short post on the Florida universal school choice bill that passed in March, which provides ~8k per private school student (link in signature below).
After reading through some relevant parts of the bill and speaking to Floridians, as well as to some Ohio (which has some vouchers) and Arizona (which has universal school choice) residents, I must say that it looks much better on paper than in reality, and will benefit schools more than students. We can expect to see an increase in private school tuition next year, and while it probably won't go up to by $8k/student, it will largely cut into this benefit (not to mention that lower income households in FL have already had access to vouchers for the past few years, so this doesn't make much a difference to them, and they'll be hit with the tuition increase as well).

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #439 on: April 18, 2023, 11:43:12 AM »
I wrote a short post on the Florida universal school choice bill that passed in March, which provides ~8k per private school student (link in signature below).
After reading through some relevant parts of the bill and speaking to Floridians, as well as to some Ohio (which has some vouchers) and Arizona (which has universal school choice) residents, I must say that it looks much better on paper than in reality, and will benefit schools more than students. We can expect to see an increase in private school tuition next year, and while it probably won't go up to by $8k/student, it will largely cut into this benefit (not to mention that lower income households in FL have already had access to vouchers for the past few years, so this doesn't make much a difference to them, and they'll be hit with the tuition increase as well).
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