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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #440 on: April 18, 2023, 12:11:52 PM »
I wrote a short post on the Florida universal school choice bill that passed in March, which provides ~8k per private school student (link in signature below).
After reading through some relevant parts of the bill and speaking to Floridians, as well as to some Ohio (which has some vouchers) and Arizona (which has universal school choice) residents, I must say that it looks much better on paper than in reality, and will benefit schools more than students. We can expect to see an increase in private school tuition next year, and while it probably won't go up to by $8k/student, it will largely cut into this benefit (not to mention that lower income households in FL have already had access to vouchers for the past few years, so this doesn't make much a difference to them, and they'll be hit with the tuition increase as well).

Most frum schools already have the vast majority of their students on the vouchers. It really doesn't change much for us.
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How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #441 on: April 18, 2023, 12:15:30 PM »
Most frum schools already have the vast majority of their students on the vouchers. It really doesn't change much for us.
How much is tuition for FL frum elementary school? Curious if the parents are paying similar to NY pricing after vouchers.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #442 on: April 19, 2023, 02:31:26 AM »
How much is tuition for FL frum elementary school? Curious if the parents are paying similar to NY pricing after vouchers.

For the ages the vouchers apply to, generally 15k and up. So parents are paying 7k+ without scholarships.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #443 on: April 26, 2023, 09:12:33 AM »
I think homeschooling will become the norm soon

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #444 on: April 26, 2023, 09:44:15 AM »
Has anyone applied for ACS Vouchers in NYC on their own?

I got a number from someone who charges $1000 for the application...
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #445 on: April 26, 2023, 10:33:56 AM »
I think homeschooling will become the norm soon

Not so suitable for frum families
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #446 on: April 26, 2023, 10:38:44 AM »

I got a number from someone who charges $1000 for the application...

1 (718) 435-7272‬

I searched the number and found it on imamother as well, but cant find any more info.

What i want to know if anyone filed on their own, or these ppl know the ins and out and can get it quicker....
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #447 on: April 26, 2023, 10:42:27 AM »
Has anyone applied for ACS Vouchers in NYC on their own?

I got a number from someone who charges $1000 for the application...
BR is guiding parents through the process for free.

That kind of money made sense a year or more ago, when ACS had a years long waiting list, and the only way around it was HRA, much tougher process. Now with hochul new expanded eligibility, I can't see paying that kind of application help.

In recent weeks it seems there's even an online application at ACS

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #448 on: April 26, 2023, 10:46:24 AM »
BR is guiding parents through the process for free.

That kind of money made sense a year or more ago, when ACS had a years long waiting list, and the only way around it was HRA, much tougher process. Now with hochul new expanded eligibility, I can't see paying that kind of application help.

In recent weeks it seems there's even an online application at ACS
When they look at the income do they base it off whats current or the previous year?
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #449 on: April 26, 2023, 11:03:46 AM »
In recent weeks it seems there's even an online application at ACS
Gov Hochul announced new online screening tool that will help parents determine their eligibility for financial support from the state’s Child Care Assistance Program for low or no-cost child care.
https://hs.ocfs.ny.gov/CCAPeligibility

They're working on rolling out more tools as well as more childcare programs, vouchers, and tax credits.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #450 on: April 26, 2023, 11:17:38 AM »
Most frum schools already have the vast majority of their students on the vouchers. It really doesn't change much for us.
It will greatly benefit the upper middle class, they usually get squeezed from all sides, between high income taxes and no tuition breaks.

It will also help those close to the income limit be able to earn more without the fear of losing $50k because they make another $10k.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #451 on: April 26, 2023, 07:46:32 PM »
It will greatly benefit the upper middle class, they usually get squeezed from all sides, between high income taxes and no tuition breaks.

It will also help those close to the income limit be able to earn more without the fear of losing $50k because they make another $10k.

No argument that it helps some people, but not the majority, and not the schools.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #452 on: April 26, 2023, 08:34:06 PM »
No argument that it helps some people, but not the majority, and not the schools.
Why not?
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #453 on: April 26, 2023, 09:56:42 PM »
Why not?

Because the people it helps were paying full tuition already.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #454 on: April 26, 2023, 11:31:23 PM »
Because the people it helps were paying full tuition already.
Find a way to fundraise off of it.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #455 on: April 27, 2023, 01:40:15 AM »
Find a way to fundraise off of it.

Don't get me wrong: it's not a bad thing when money comes in to the community from outside. It may create opportunities. I just don't see it as the massive coup that it's being touted as.
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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #456 on: April 27, 2023, 08:11:47 AM »
1 (718) 435-7272‬

I searched the number and found it on imamother as well, but cant find any more info.

What i want to know if anyone filed on their own, or these ppl know the ins and out and can get it quicker....
Do it yourself online.. it's super easy, took me 15 min.

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #457 on: April 27, 2023, 10:06:19 AM »
Ohio Residents
Most of you are probably already aware of this program, but the benefit has been raised from $500 to $1,000- for those already enrolled the benefit amount will be increased automatically- a new application is not required.

The Ohio Afterschool Child Enrichment (ACE) educational savings account program provides $1,000 for students and families to use on various enrichment and educational activities, including tutoring, day camps, music lessons, study skills services and field trips.

https://www.aceohio.org/

household eligibility (you only need to meet one of the requirements to qualify, not all three): https://help.aceohio.org/which-students-are-eligible-to-receive-ace-funds

eligible uses: https://help.aceohio.org/how-can-students-use-the-ace-funding

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #458 on: April 27, 2023, 01:52:50 PM »
Because the people it helps were paying full tuition already.

That can't be right. Families with 6 kids and under 300k income are paying $15k per kid after tax? Naaaah

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Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?
« Reply #459 on: April 27, 2023, 02:02:26 PM »
That can't be right. Families with 6 kids and under 300k income are paying $15k per kid after tax? Naaaah
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