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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1460 on: October 05, 2020, 10:56:52 AM »
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1463 on: October 13, 2020, 01:13:23 PM »
https://news.trust.org/item/20201012182010-8v76b
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In a similar study of 233 U.S. COVID-19 patients - eight of whom had been severely ill - one in four still had symptoms 90 days after first feeling ill. Rates were higher for patients who had been sicker: 59.4% at 30 days and 40.6% at 90 days. "But even for very mild and initially asymptomatic cases, 14.3% have complications persist for 30 days or longer," the authors reported on Sunday on medRxiv. In the U.S. study, the most common persistent symptoms were impaired smell and taste, difficulty concentrating, shortness of breath, memory loss, confusion, headache, heart palpitations, chest pain, pain with deep breaths, dizziness, and rapid heartbeat.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1464 on: October 13, 2020, 05:06:36 PM »
Wrong thread?
Obviously I was reffering to the antibody portion of the study.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1466 on: October 16, 2020, 12:05:17 PM »
Listerine Cool Mint Mouthwash rinse can potentially be effective in reducing the spread of COVID-19:

A group of German researchers looked at the effectiveness of 8 different mouthwash rinses on reducing the viral load of the SARS CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19, possibly serving as an additional barrier to spread.
 
The 3 most effective mouthwashes which each reduced viral load to undetectable levels (log 3 reduction or >99.9%) in lab studies were benzalkonium chloride, (a common ingredient in hand sanitizer and not used much in the US ), povidone-iodine  and ethanol (the active ingredient in Listerine Cool Mint) .

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/8/1289/5878067?utm_source=Audience+%28active+subscribed+patients%29+updated+7.14.20&utm_campaign=968eec6b41-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_25_07_04_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1c10fe2971-968eec6b41-71387072
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1467 on: October 16, 2020, 12:09:14 PM »
Listerine Cool Mint Mouthwash rinse can potentially be effective in reducing the spread of COVID-19:

A group of German researchers looked at the effectiveness of 8 different mouthwash rinses on reducing the viral load of the SARS CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19, possibly serving as an additional barrier to spread.
 
The 3 most effective mouthwashes which each reduced viral load to undetectable levels (log 3 reduction or >99.9%) in lab studies were benzalkonium chloride, (a common ingredient in hand sanitizer and not used much in the US ), povidone-iodine  and ethanol (the active ingredient in Listerine Cool Mint) .

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/8/1289/5878067?utm_source=Audience+%28active+subscribed+patients%29+updated+7.14.20&utm_campaign=968eec6b41-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_25_07_04_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1c10fe2971-968eec6b41-71387072
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1468 on: October 16, 2020, 12:13:01 PM »
Instruction unclear; snorting listerine strips.

Try IV. Alternate with bleach.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1469 on: October 16, 2020, 12:29:34 PM »
Try IV. Alternate with bleach.

My favorite is still the ELVIS nasal saline study - https://www.ed.ac.uk/usher/elvis-covid-19

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1470 on: October 16, 2020, 03:33:08 PM »
Listerine Cool Mint Mouthwash rinse can potentially be effective in reducing the spread of COVID-19:

A group of German researchers looked at the effectiveness of 8 different mouthwash rinses on reducing the viral load of the SARS CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19, possibly serving as an additional barrier to spread.
 
The 3 most effective mouthwashes which each reduced viral load to undetectable levels (log 3 reduction or >99.9%) in lab studies were benzalkonium chloride, (a common ingredient in hand sanitizer and not used much in the US ), povidone-iodine  and ethanol (the active ingredient in Listerine Cool Mint) .

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/8/1289/5878067?utm_source=Audience+%28active+subscribed+patients%29+updated+7.14.20&utm_campaign=968eec6b41-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_25_07_04_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1c10fe2971-968eec6b41-71387072

Useless study. When will they study alcoholic drinks? Instead of taking temperature before attending a wedding, you gotta take a shot of vodka to enter. And we’ll have kiddush before shul.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1471 on: October 16, 2020, 03:37:26 PM »
Useless study. When will they study alcoholic drinks? Instead of taking temperature before attending a wedding, you gotta take a shot of vodka to enter. And we’ll have kiddush before shul.

Do you guys do it differently?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1472 on: October 16, 2020, 03:39:10 PM »
So instead of closing bars that don’t serve food, we should force all restaurants to start with a shot
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1473 on: October 17, 2020, 10:58:46 PM »
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In this context, nasal and oral antisepsis have been suggested to lower the number of active aerosolized virus particles from the nasal passages and oral cavity and consequently reduce transmission risk of SARS-CoV-2

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1475 on: October 18, 2020, 01:48:05 AM »
https://scitechdaily.com/johns-hopkins-researchers-identify-immune-system-pathway-that-may-stop-covid-19-infection/

@biobook can we have an English executive summary please?
I had said earlier that the virus binds the ACE2 protein and enters our cells.  That's true, but the virus can do other things before and after and in parallel to that.  There's a lot going on, with multiple pathways activated.  Sort of like a Rube Goldberg cartoon, where this activates that, which inhibits the other thing, etc.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine
So the authors here figured out another piece of the puzzle for one of these pathways.  I don't think it has immediate relevance for us, just good to know that they're on top of things. 

Drugs have been tested to block viral activity, and this new information suggests another pathway where drugs might effectively be used.  This is a good thing in general, because having multiple ways of attacking the virus may give options for those who develop side effects to one drug.  Come back in a couple years to see if it pans out.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1476 on: October 18, 2020, 01:51:01 AM »
I had said earlier that the virus binds the ACE2 protein and enters our cells.  That's true, but the virus can do other things before and after and in parallel to that.  There's a lot going on, with multiple pathways activated.  Sort of like a Rube Goldberg cartoon, where this activates that, which inhibits the other thing, etc.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine
So the authors here figured out another piece of the puzzle for one of these pathways.  I don't think it has immediate relevance for us, just good to know that they're on top of things. 

Drugs have been tested to block viral activity, and this new information suggests another pathway where drugs might effectively be used.  This is a good thing in general, because having multiple ways of attacking the virus may give options for those who develop side effects to one drug.  Come back in a couple years to see if it pans out.

If there are already drugs that block factor D, can’t they be studied sooner than a few years a from now as a potential treatment for COVID?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1477 on: October 19, 2020, 01:50:09 AM »
If there are already drugs that block factor D, can’t they be studied sooner than a few years a from now as a potential treatment for COVID?
From the article, "There are a number of these drugs that will be FDA-approved and in clinical practice within the next two years,” though it's not clear what stage of development they're in.  I would guess that at some point they might be available for trying under the "compassionate use" rule.  Perhaps they would be first tried on those covid patients who also have one of the conditions that those drugs might be helpful for, such as macular degeneration.

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