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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #360 on: April 01, 2020, 12:38:34 AM »
I am looking to match up different states to each other. I don't see how to do that there.

The other provinces in China are where I found the most unbelievable stats. Zhejiang had 1 death in over 1250. Real miracles.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #361 on: April 01, 2020, 12:55:12 AM »
https://www.axios.com/fda-coronavirus-two-minute-testing-kit-bodysphere-a665429d-488d-4edf-bd36-9180e2a06e4c.html

1. When does this hit the market in volume?

2. Quote from the linked article:

“ Yes, but: The Bodysphere two-minute test can only detect the coronavirus in people who have had the infection for several days, meaning the test can't be used too early on when the body hasn't produced enough antibodies.”

That implies that you can be viral and still have some antibodies. Unless this machine can quantify the antibodies to ascertain that you’ve reached a certain level, it doesn’t say anything about whether you’re still viral.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #362 on: April 01, 2020, 04:39:10 AM »
The other provinces in China are where I found the most unbelievable stats. Zhejiang had 1 death in over 1250. Real miracles.
or real fake news

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #364 on: April 01, 2020, 07:51:55 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/iceland-testing-coronavirus-intl/index.html
This is interesting. 9000 tests of self-selected population. 1% positive (means around 90) and half of them (45) asymptomatic. Not sure if the sample size is large enough, but it's definitely interesting. It's hard to say without more data. But it could mean that in a country with very low infection rates, still asymptomatic people have already been infected at some rate. Meaning that in a country with huge infection rates, maybe the infection rates are really a lot higher than we think. And maybe hospitalization and death rates are lower than we think.

Also this from the article
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Stefánsson wonders whether mutations in the virus are "responsible, in some way, for how differently people respond to it -- some just develop a mild cold, while some people need a respirator," or whether a person's genetics dictates their condition.
"Or is it a combination of these two?" he asks.
Something I've been wondering aloud for a while
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #365 on: April 01, 2020, 08:05:37 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/iceland-testing-coronavirus-intl/index.html
This is interesting. 9000 tests of self-selected population. 1% positive (means around 90) and half of them (45) asymptomatic. Not sure if the sample size is large enough, but it's definitely interesting. It's hard to say without more data. But it could mean that in a country with very low infection rates, still asymptomatic people have already been infected at some rate. Meaning that in a country with huge infection rates, maybe the infection rates are really a lot higher than we think. And maybe hospitalization and death rates are lower than we think.

Also this from the articleSomething I've been wondering aloud for a while

One thing to keep in mind is that many people can be asymptomatic at time of testing but end up developing symptoms afterwards. WHO also made some claims about this but I won’t even bother.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #366 on: April 01, 2020, 08:13:43 AM »
One thing to keep in mind is that many people can be asymptomatic at time of testing but end up developing symptoms afterwards. WHO also made some claims about this but I won’t even bother.

Wonder how feasible it is to get these 9000 people to report how they’re doing in 2 weeks.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #367 on: April 01, 2020, 08:25:48 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/iceland-testing-coronavirus-intl/index.html
This is interesting. 9000 tests of self-selected population. 1% positive (means around 90) and half of them (45) asymptomatic. Not sure if the sample size is large enough, but it's definitely interesting. It's hard to say without more data. But it could mean that in a country with very low infection rates, still asymptomatic people have already been infected at some rate. Meaning that in a country with huge infection rates, maybe the infection rates are really a lot higher than we think. And maybe hospitalization and death rates are lower than we think.

Also this from the articleSomething I've been wondering aloud for a while

Why cant it be that the virus is like a cancer....some people get it in their lungs and others in other places of the body?

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #368 on: April 01, 2020, 08:25:56 AM »
Wonder how feasible it is to get these 9000 people to report how they’re doing in 2 weeks.

There were only 45 asymptomatic people, surely can’t be that difficult.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #369 on: April 01, 2020, 08:45:04 AM »
There were only 45 asymptomatic people, surely can’t be that difficult.
Yup. It seems like Iceland can be a great ground for research because of it's isolation and size
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #370 on: April 01, 2020, 08:45:46 AM »
One thing to keep in mind is that many people can be asymptomatic at time of testing but end up developing symptoms afterwards. WHO also made some claims about this but I won’t even bother.
Good point. Would love to see the full numbers on those 9000 tests. How may were symptomatic, level of symptoms, etc.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #374 on: April 01, 2020, 05:01:34 PM »
Wifes grandfather in 70's and with pre-existing conditions was taken off a ventilator BH.