Author Topic: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?  (Read 56321 times)

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #390 on: April 02, 2020, 10:04:35 AM »
Maybe belongs in the interesting article thread...

Robert Kraft sending the Patriots' 767 on a humanitarian cargo public image lift from Shenzen.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-million-n95-masks-are-coming-from-chinaon-board-the-new-england-patriots-plane-11585821600?mod=hp_lead_pos4


I fargin the good publicity to anyone who steps up to the plate and actually does something to help.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #391 on: April 02, 2020, 10:07:57 AM »
What if you had symptoms but never got tested?
Still a candidate. Dw was never tested but was symptomatic

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #392 on: April 02, 2020, 10:46:21 AM »
DW was approved today as a potential donor...working with Mount Sinai
When did she contact them? My wife, who had a positive test already almost 2 weeks ago, contacted them more than a week ago, filled out the survey they sent, and heard nothing back yet.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #394 on: April 02, 2020, 11:59:02 AM »
After the initial blood test to determine eligibility, its a 90 minutes process where they hook you up to a machine that draws your blood, separates the platelets (antibodies) and reinserts the blood to donor.
Have they already taken the blood test to see if the body has antibodies? Or they just put her on the list?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #395 on: April 02, 2020, 03:03:53 PM »
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https://mobile.twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1245383075854458887

https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/
4. Mortality

The fear of a rise in the death rate in Germany (currently 0.55 percent) is currently the subject of particularly intense media attention. Many people are worried that it could shoot up like in Italy (10 percent) and Spain (7 percent) if action is not taken in time.

At the same time, the mistake is being made worldwide to report virus-related deaths as soon as it is established that the virus was present at the time of death regardless of other factors. This violates a basic principle of infectiology: only when it is certain that an agent has played a significant role in the disease or death may a diagnosis be made. The Association of the Scientific Medical Societies of Germany expressly writes in its guidelines: In addition to the cause of death, a causal chain must be stated, with the corresponding underlying disease in third place on the death certificate. Occasionally, four-linked causal chains must also be stated. [6]

At present there is no official information on whether, at least in retrospect, more critical analyses of medical records have been undertaken to determine how many deaths were actually caused by the virus.

My question: Has Germany simply followed this trend of a COVID-19 general suspicion? And: is it intended to continue this categorisation uncritically as in other countries? How, then, is a distinction to be made between genuine corona-related deaths and accidental virus presence at the time of death?

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #396 on: April 02, 2020, 03:08:31 PM »
My understanding is Germany figures only include direct deaths, part of the reason for the lower rate
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #397 on: April 02, 2020, 03:15:57 PM »
/thread
https://mobile.twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1245383075854458887

https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/
4. Mortality

The fear of a rise in the death rate in Germany (currently 0.55 percent) is currently the subject of particularly intense media attention. Many people are worried that it could shoot up like in Italy (10 percent) and Spain (7 percent) if action is not taken in time.

At the same time, the mistake is being made worldwide to report virus-related deaths as soon as it is established that the virus was present at the time of death regardless of other factors. This violates a basic principle of infectiology: only when it is certain that an agent has played a significant role in the disease or death may a diagnosis be made. The Association of the Scientific Medical Societies of Germany expressly writes in its guidelines: In addition to the cause of death, a causal chain must be stated, with the corresponding underlying disease in third place on the death certificate. Occasionally, four-linked causal chains must also be stated. [6]

At present there is no official information on whether, at least in retrospect, more critical analyses of medical records have been undertaken to determine how many deaths were actually caused by the virus.

My question: Has Germany simply followed this trend of a COVID-19 general suspicion? And: is it intended to continue this categorisation uncritically as in other countries? How, then, is a distinction to be made between genuine corona-related deaths and accidental virus presence at the time of death?

I think this is the biggest problelm with Israels numbers. There were so many 90+ year olds that were niftar and those even between 60-90 that were niftar BUT almost all had, not "other underlying symptoms" but severe and miltiple underlying symptoms. Why are these people counted in the total number of dead?  If you take those out you are looking at a death toll that is .1-.2%!!

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #398 on: April 02, 2020, 03:16:14 PM »
Germany's numbers jumped today, anyway, so their rate is going up. As I understand it, every countries numbers are under-reported, and each country (and sometimes states/provinces/regions within those countries) have their own little details as to how the classify the cause of death.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #399 on: April 02, 2020, 04:12:41 PM »
When did she contact them? My wife, who had a positive test already almost 2 weeks ago, contacted them more than a week ago, filled out the survey they sent, and heard nothing back yet.

There are other places in NYC looking for this, I've seen one circulating.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #400 on: April 02, 2020, 04:15:36 PM »
After the initial blood test to determine eligibility, its a 90 minutes process where they hook you up to a machine that draws your blood, separates the platelets (antibodies) and reinserts the blood to donor.

Good stuff, how often can you donate?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #403 on: April 02, 2020, 11:45:07 PM »
Apparently refuah health center in Monsey is gonna test tomorrow for antibodies. Anyone going?

Trying to understand, there are multiple different reports as for how long you are a carrier of the virus once you are positive. If it's true let's say that you are a carrier for 3 weeks after testing, what would help if you have antibodies to let you go back out back to work etc? You could still put others at risk?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #404 on: April 03, 2020, 12:47:58 AM »
Good stuff, how often can you donate?
Dont know. Will have all the details this Monday iyh..