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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2020, 07:35:56 AM »
South Korea (going to a country that will be most similar to the USA) has a 25% recovery rate and a 1-1.2% death rate.
SK is most similar to the US. We are testing hundreds of thousands? We took this serious from day one? Our curve is flattening?
Please explain how we are similar, not how we hope we are?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2020, 08:44:30 AM »
Any more info on if they think the warm weather will stop the virus?

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2020, 08:58:54 AM »
Donít want to get your hopes down but - many new people infected. And people donít die instantly.
Hence the death rate is low but so is the recovered case rate. Need the recovered rate to rise before saying anything is good news.
On March 12 Italy had 15,113 cases and 1,016 deaths. The US currently has 14,372 cases and 217 deaths
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2020, 09:31:57 AM »
On March 12 Italy had 15,113 cases and 1,016 deaths. The US currently has 14,372 cases and 217 deaths

What was the total % of completed cases and recoveries on that date in Italy? I see right now itís at 10.8% recovered vs 8.3% CFR. US right now is at 0.8% recovered vs 1.4% CFR. I donít necessarily think the US will be hit hard like Italy (I really hope not), but itís hard to match it up to South Korea either.  Thereís a large gap between those 2.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2020, 09:33:59 AM »
On March 12 Italy had 15,113 cases and 1,016 deaths. The US currently has 14,372 cases and 217 deaths
What was your point besides always trying to downplay the crisis?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2020, 09:40:00 AM »
What was the total % of completed cases and recoveries on that date in Italy? I see right now itís at 10.8% vs 8.3% CFR. US right now is at 0.8% recovered vs 1.4% CFR. I donít necessarily think the US will be hit hard like Italy (I really hope not), but itís hard to match it up to South Korea either.  Thereís a lot of gap between those 2.
I don't know, but presumably if we're going at the same rate of cases the recovery should be around the same.
What was your point besides always trying to downplay the crisis?
Are we not allowed to discuss the facts unless they say we're all going to die? I've been tracking the death rate in the US and Italy, and we're definitely trending much lower. Earlier this week it was 2.5-3x, now it's 4-5x
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2020, 09:49:14 AM »
Are we not allowed to discuss the facts unless they say we're all going to die? I've been tracking the death rate in the US and Italy, and we're definitely trending much lower. Earlier this week it was 2.5-3x, now it's 4-5x
Sure you can discuss the facts all you want. Playing with numbers to make the facts the way you want them to look is a different story.

What don't you show the facts that we are on the same (or worse) trajectory as Italy for new cases? Or how about the numbers showing hospitals running out of supplies? Or how we have less beds than Italy per capita?

My point is from the beginning you have taken the position we are all panicking or it is not that bad. You have been wrong at every turn but still keep it up.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2020, 09:51:28 AM »
I've been tracking the death rate in the US and Italy, and we're definitely trending much lower. Earlier this week it was 2.5-3x, now it's 4-5x
What is more important to you. The death rate in the US or the amount of people that will die from this virus?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2020, 10:00:03 AM »
Look at the two curves for cases and deaths. What do you see @avromie7
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2020, 10:03:14 AM »
Sure you can discuss the facts all you want. Playing with numbers to make the facts the way you want them to look is a different story.

What don't you show the facts that we are on the same (or worse) trajectory as Italy for new cases? Or how about the numbers showing hospitals running out of supplies? Or how we have less beds than Italy per capita?

My point is from the beginning you have taken the position we are all panicking or it is not that bad. You have been wrong at every turn but still keep it up.
I'm not trying to play with the numbers, I'm looking at what everyone is convinced is coming here and wondering if it's true. The number of cases is not what's worrisome about this virus, it's the number of deaths.

I didn't leave my house at all yesterday except to take out the garbage. My wife and kids took a walk to the mailbox.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2020, 10:04:07 AM »
What is more important to you. The death rate in the US or the amount of people that will die from this virus?
They're both important, but considering that I live in the US that's what worries me the most.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2020, 10:05:51 AM »
The number of cases is not what's worrisome about this virus, it's the number of deaths.
Then look at the curve for NUMBER of deaths. If we don't take drastic measures that is only going to get worse.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2020, 10:08:46 AM »
I didn't leave my house at all yesterday except to take out the garbage. My wife and kids took a walk to the mailbox.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2020, 10:27:33 AM »
Then look at the curve for NUMBER of deaths. If we don't take drastic measures that is only going to get worse.
Look at the logarithmic chart, it took Italy 8 days to go from 10 to 100, and 8 days from 100 to 1000. It took the US 13 days to go from 10 to 100, and we're on day 3 of the trajectory from 100 to 1000. I am not trying to downplay the seriousness, I'm just trying to get to find the facts. There are enough people showing the worst case scenario that I don't need to.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against CIVID-19?
« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2020, 10:40:40 AM »
Look at the logarithmic chart, it took Italy 8 days to go from 10 to 100, and 8 days from 100 to 1000. It took the US 13 days to go from 10 to 100, and we're on day 3 of the trajectory from 100 to 1000. I am not trying to downplay the seriousness, I'm just trying to get to find the facts. There are enough people showing the worst case scenario that I don't need to.
Look at the trajectory of the US curve. Forget about everyone else. This is not rocket science to see where we are headed.
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