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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #241 on: March 27, 2020, 04:16:47 PM »
@KolHaolam
I guess better late than never.  >:(
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #244 on: March 27, 2020, 05:11:41 PM »
Unclear whether he's actually invoked the Defense Production Act:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raises-prospect-of-ordering-gm-ford-to-manufacture-ventilators/2020/03/27/92f82db6-7043-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-threatens-to-invoke-defense-production-act-if-gm-fails-to-respond-to-ventilator-demands/

I wrote an entire post about this and saying that this is what it would come to.

Both sides of the political aisle argue against government encroachment when it suits them.

@CountValentine  will agree.

If Trump does something , where in this case at the cries for help from a Democrat Governor, I sure hope the D's don't bash him.

Was there another way of doing it? I have no idea generally politicians don't do things that are unpopular on purpose.. but Trump does stuff that makes no sense so who knows.

I was just thinking that those industries that were begging for a bailout It should have come with some clause that they would produce necessary medical equipment if possible or provide service or aid.


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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #245 on: March 27, 2020, 05:19:53 PM »
I concur!  :)
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #246 on: March 27, 2020, 05:42:36 PM »
Who said this was the reason?

I'm not putting his name up here, because I'm not family (just close to his family), but this is what they were told. Is it possible it was for a different reason? Yes. But that's what they were told
Name names. Without info this is meaningless. They are NOT rationing. If someone needs a vent they are getting a vent. This is just not true as a general rule. There MUST be other reasons unless proven otherwise.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #247 on: March 27, 2020, 05:50:54 PM »

So you heard from someone in the family that they were told that? I'm trying to figure out how many times you are removed from the person who (you claim) was actually told that in the hospital. By every account...even in the worst hospital Elmhurst...everyone that needs a vent is getting it. No age limitations.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #248 on: March 28, 2020, 01:53:23 PM »
Israel so far:
Total cases 3,460

12 Niftar=0.35% death rate

123 moderate (73) or severe (50)=3.5%

this is one of the best in the world BH. What are they doing differnt? We are still davening with Minyanim fyi.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #249 on: March 28, 2020, 06:53:18 PM »
Israel so far:
Total cases 3,460

12 Niftar=0.35% death rate

123 moderate (73) or severe (50)=3.5%

this is one of the best in the world BH. What are they doing differnt? We are still davening with Minyanim fyi.
Where are they in the cycle?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #250 on: March 28, 2020, 09:07:43 PM »
Israel so far:
Total cases 3,460

12 Niftar=0.35% death rate

123 moderate (73) or severe (50)=3.5%

this is one of the best in the world BH. What are they doing differnt? We are still davening with Minyanim fyi.

Israel real very early on implemented strict measures, a lot of quarintine and isolation.

I would also say that the country is more prepared for this type of things given the drills for terror attacks etc.


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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #251 on: March 28, 2020, 09:21:37 PM »
I'm afraid Israel is where we were 10 days ago. I hope, I hope that I will be proven wrong.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #252 on: March 28, 2020, 09:25:33 PM »
I'm afraid Israel is where we were 10 days ago. I hope, I hope that I will be proven wrong.
That is why I asked:
Where are they in the cycle?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #253 on: March 28, 2020, 09:36:25 PM »
Where are they in the cycle?
They started before the US, but they locked things down very quickly.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #254 on: March 28, 2020, 09:37:31 PM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #255 on: March 28, 2020, 09:39:25 PM »
They started before the US, but they locked things down very quickly.
Then they are looking way better than us.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #257 on: March 29, 2020, 12:01:11 AM »
I'm afraid Israel is where we were 10 days ago. I hope, I hope that I will be proven wrong.

Israel had its first case February 21 well we'll before the US. We had quarantine since purim

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #258 on: March 29, 2020, 01:15:40 AM »
Israel had its first case February 21 well we'll before the US. We had quarantine since purim
I didn't mean in terms of cautining. I meant that the frum people there don't get it how serious it is, like we didn't get it just 2 weeks ago. Although they had strict official rules, people even as we speak don't get it. Most places I know of have Minyen and Mikvah open. And the situation there is way better. Who am I to know but maybe R Chaim is right? Maybe because they keep on learning and all it Torah Mangneh Umatzlah? 

I am saying I hope they don't end up looking like we do....

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #259 on: March 29, 2020, 01:20:43 AM »
I didn't mean in terms of cautining. I meant that the frum people there don't get it how serious it is, like we didn't get it just 2 weeks ago. Although they had strict official rules, people even as we speak don't get it. Most places I know of have Minyen and Mikvah open. And the situation there is way better. Who am I to know but maybe R Chaim is right? Maybe because they keep on learning and all it Torah Mangneh Umatzlah? 

I am saying I hope they don't end up looking like we do....

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1843979/bnei-brak-is-turning-into-italy-almost-every-chareidi-is-infected.html