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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #680 on: April 30, 2020, 02:00:39 AM »
Korea has been fully open for almost 2 weeks and they reported ZERO cases over the past 24 hours. Now I am sure there are a bunch of hysterics on this forum that will claim that like China South Korea is also lying. And Israel is also lying. But for those who are not so locked into our views, there is hope BH!!

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #681 on: April 30, 2020, 06:39:11 AM »
Korea has been fully open for almost 2 weeks and they reported ZERO cases over the past 24 hours. Now I am sure there are a bunch of hysterics on this forum that will claim that like China South Korea is also lying. And Israel is also lying. But for those who are not so locked into our views, there is hope BH!!
I don't see anyone saying SK has been lying. We all know China has lied through their teeth. Not fair to link the two together.

Now here is some good news. Not the leaks but the prelim results.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-says-leak-concerns-fueled-his-white-house-revelation-of-gilead-drug-results/ar-BB13p19Q?ocid=spartanntp
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #682 on: April 30, 2020, 06:45:28 AM »
I don't see anyone saying SK has been lying. We all know China has lied through their teeth. Not fair to link the two together.


This forum seem to doubt anytime there is good news, I am glad we are leaving SK and others out of the doubt.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #683 on: April 30, 2020, 06:49:02 AM »
This forum seem to doubt anytime there is good news, I am glad we are leaving SK and others out of the doubt.
I would say most are on the cautious side. We all want and welcome good news. Yes I will doubt drugs/treatments that have no factual basis.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #684 on: April 30, 2020, 09:23:32 AM »
This forum seem to doubt anytime there is good news, I am glad we are leaving SK and others out of the doubt.
It’s great when good news comes out. It’s terrible when misinformed people latch onto small studies that they don’t understand to excuse reckless and dangerous behavior.

If you can’t understand why we doubt Chinese data you have other issues.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #685 on: April 30, 2020, 09:46:07 AM »
This forum seem to doubt anytime there is good news, I am glad we are leaving SK and others out of the doubt.

Do you have some examples of good news that was unjustifiably doubted?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #686 on: April 30, 2020, 09:51:59 AM »
That's great news, but SK uses extreme contact tracing and digital tracking.

Not sure if the west will stomach that.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #687 on: April 30, 2020, 09:52:59 AM »
How much of a trade-off are we willing to accept?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #688 on: April 30, 2020, 09:55:43 AM »
That's great news, but SK uses extreme contact tracing and digital tracking.

Not sure if the west will stomach that.

Is Israel the happy medium?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #689 on: April 30, 2020, 09:56:39 AM »
Is Israel the happy medium?
Do they do contact tracing?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #690 on: April 30, 2020, 09:58:27 AM »
Do they do contact tracing?
They were tracking cellphones, but they stopped
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #691 on: April 30, 2020, 10:27:22 AM »
Is Israel the happy medium?

They used military/police to quarantine certain neighborhoods, including the use of force. They tracked confirmed positives by the GPS on their phones. They mandated quarantine in special hotel for certain confirmed positives. They shut the country to all foreigners, including tourists, students, and many people temporarily living there.

Trump made a comment about stopping immigration until this settles and half the country collectively lost their minds. If shutting the country to foreigners was the least controversial thing Israel did, there's no way to implement a fraction of Israel's measures in the US.

Israel is also the size on NJ... It kinda changes the game in terms of  containment.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #692 on: April 30, 2020, 10:42:00 AM »
Do they do contact tracing?
Yes. In the beginning it was hampered by a shortage of testing, but now that they have sufficient testing capacity they have all but eradicated the virus using effective fast tracing and there is very little lockdown left.
They were tracking cellphones, but they stopped
It's only one of the techniques, and it's still being used. The first step is to try, which the the US never did.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #693 on: April 30, 2020, 11:52:57 AM »
They used military/police to quarantine certain neighborhoods, including the use of force. They tracked confirmed positives by the GPS on their phones. They mandated quarantine in special hotel for certain confirmed positives. They shut the country to all foreigners, including tourists, students, and many people temporarily living there.

Trump made a comment about stopping immigration until this settles and half the country collectively lost their minds. If shutting the country to foreigners was the least controversial thing Israel did, there's no way to implement a fraction of Israel's measures in the US.

Israel is also the size on NJ... It kinda changes the game in terms of  containment.
I wish would NJ would be like Israel which has closed borders.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #694 on: April 30, 2020, 12:03:32 PM »
I wish would NJ would be like Israel which has closed borders.

It's a nice thought. Shame it's virtually impossible to close any state's borders.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #695 on: April 30, 2020, 12:56:12 PM »
Yes. In the beginning it was hampered by a shortage of testing, but now that they have sufficient testing capacity they have all but eradicated the virus using effective fast tracing and there is very little lockdown left. It's only one of the techniques, and it's still being used. The first step is to try, which the the US never did.
Tracing needs to be done in the US now. Unfortunately we can't even get testing right so far.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #696 on: April 30, 2020, 01:35:56 PM »
Tracing needs to be done in the US now. Unfortunately we can't even get testing right so far.
And tracing may be unconstitutional.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #697 on: April 30, 2020, 01:36:45 PM »
And tracing may be unconstitutional.
Try it and will find out. To not try is a serious blunder.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
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Time to buy stock in burner phone companies...
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #699 on: April 30, 2020, 01:48:40 PM »
They used military/police to quarantine certain neighborhoods, including the use of force. They tracked confirmed positives by the GPS on their phones. They mandated quarantine in special hotel for certain confirmed positives. They shut the country to all foreigners, including tourists, students, and many people temporarily living there.

Trump made a comment about stopping immigration until this settles and half the country collectively lost their minds. If shutting the country to foreigners was the least controversial thing Israel did, there's no way to implement a fraction of Israel's measures in the US.

Israel is also the size on NJ... It kinda changes the game in terms of  containment.
It also helps that they have one airport, and no ground borders with too many people traveling regularly
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