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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #870 on: May 18, 2020, 01:39:12 PM »
How is the Moderna vaccine data not the #1 story on all news websites?
#1 on WSJ: U.S. Stocks Rally as Hopes for New Virus Vaccine Build
#2 on WSJ: Moderna Says Initial Covid-19 Vaccine Results Are Positive

Believe it or not, ditto for NYT!

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #871 on: May 18, 2020, 01:48:35 PM »
How is the Moderna vaccine data not the #1 story on all news websites?
Itís literally the #1 story everywhere Iíve checked, largely in the context of the market though ;)

Itís massive news.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #872 on: May 18, 2020, 02:03:49 PM »
Itís literally the #1 story everywhere Iíve checked, largely in the context of the market though ;)

Itís massive news.
Top story on CNN too. Yet Fox leads with some stupid story about some Biden and Obama not being prosecuted
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #873 on: May 18, 2020, 02:20:45 PM »
Yet Fox leads with some stupid story about some Biden and Obama not being prosecuted
It's worse than that. I can't even find the story there at all!

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #874 on: May 18, 2020, 02:21:35 PM »
Top story on CNN too. Yet Fox leads with some stupid story about some Biden and Obama not being prosecuted
Bizarre.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #875 on: May 18, 2020, 02:22:37 PM »
It's worse than that. I can't even find the story there at all!

Look at how many times you find the word "lockdown" in the headlines or blurbs of their main page. Then go to any other news site and search for the same word. The agenda is sickening.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #876 on: May 18, 2020, 02:24:48 PM »

Look at how many times you find the word "lockdown" in the headlines or blurbs of their main page.
Yeah, almost as many as here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=116381.0 or here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=116258.0 ::)

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #878 on: May 18, 2020, 02:30:50 PM »
Look at how many times you find the word "lockdown" in the headlines or blurbs of their main page. Then go to any other news site and search for the same word. The agenda is sickening.
This is your issue with the media? When the government tells everyone to stay home and forces businesses to close, they call it a lockdown?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #879 on: May 18, 2020, 02:45:01 PM »
This is your issue with the media? When the government tells everyone to stay home and forces businesses to close, they call it a lockdown?
You are making it as if this is the first time anyone complained about the media on ddf
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #880 on: May 18, 2020, 03:45:55 PM »
This is your issue with the media? When the government tells everyone to stay home and forces businesses to close, they call it a lockdown?

I have many issues with the media. Mostly, they revolve around different outlets using rhetoric to gaslight segments of the population in order to further their agenda. We see it with race all the time. My issue in this particular instance is that using the term "lockdown" in conjunction with ignoring the positive vaccine news plays into a certain narrative. Understand, in FL, the government tells us to stay home and forces business to close on average about once a year, when a hurricane is coming. The media doesn't call it a lockdown. The only time you'll see lockdown in the context of a hurricane is when cities go under lockdown to prevent looting. Prisons get locked down. It's a term that is used in a context of powerful entities exerting control over people who need to be put in their place. By using that term with regards to the current situation, the media is gaslighting people who already have issues with what they perceive to be excessive government involvement and overreach in their lives. Now rebelling against the lockdown becomes patriotic. It's not a coincidence that the protests have combined groups of far-right anti-government activits and militias with groups of anti-vaxxers, all uniting in the name of patriotism and freedom. So yea, right now, the media putting our safety at risk by legitimizing fringe groups and pushing their ideas mainstream, as evidenced by the prevalence of their ideas on these very forums, that's my issue with the media today.

/rant. Sorry for taking this OT. Mods, feel free to move this to one of the many political/media threads to keep the news good.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #882 on: May 18, 2020, 09:50:13 PM »
https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/moderna-reports-positive-results-from-coronavirus-vaccine-trial/?utm_source=maropost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_alert&utm_content=20200518&mpweb=755-8876262-720568875

Not sure why this is earth shattering. This is stage 1 trial data. Arenít there already vaccines in stage 2?

Either way, there are reportedly over 100 vaccines either in clinical trials or or with trials scheduled, what makes this one special? Many of them will hit this milestone sooner or later?

What is the finish-line here anyway? Successful results from stage 3 clinical trial? FDA approval? Government approval in other major countries (but not FDA)? Do any of the above matter if the second finisher has hundreds of millions of doses ready to go? (e.g. one of Bill Gatesí 7 vaccine candidates that heís reportedly already ramping up production on?

My take on this is that the way things seem now, there will be billions of people lining up to get vaccinated, and much more than one winner in this race, not just the first one to cross the fuzzy finish line.

ETA:

There are so many other questions here, like when will the first vaccine be ready? 4Q20, 1Q21, or beyond? Will there be ample supply? Will doses go to the hotspots at the time, to the country of manufacture,  or to the counties willing to pay the most?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #883 on: May 18, 2020, 10:45:18 PM »
Not sure why this is earth shattering. This is stage 1 trial data. Arenít there already vaccines in stage 2?

Either way, there are reportedly over 100 vaccines either in clinical trials or or with trials scheduled, what makes this one special? Many of them will hit this milestone sooner or later?

What is the finish-line here anyway? Successful results from stage 3 clinical trial? FDA approval? Government approval in other major countries (but not FDA)? Do any of the above matter if the second finisher has hundreds of millions of doses ready to go? (e.g. one of Bill Gatesí 7 vaccine candidates that heís reportedly already ramping up production on?

My take on this is that the way things seem now, there will be billions of people lining up to get vaccinated, and much more than one winner in this race, not just the first one to cross the fuzzy finish line.

ETA:

There are so many other questions here, like when will the first vaccine be ready? 4Q20, 1Q21, or beyond? Will there be ample supply? Will doses go to the hotspots at the time, to the country of manufacture,  or to the counties willing to pay the most?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #884 on: May 18, 2020, 10:46:02 PM »
If Gates has his way we will start at the least developed country and work our way up

Gates is just one factor in this puzzle that has many moving pieces. Thinking about this now, itís very consistent with his agenda. The people who would find a solution without him donít need his help as much as those that are helpless without him.
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