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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1245 on: June 28, 2020, 10:53:00 AM »
If they can continue to have the virus hit primarily younger people like it is currently doing that would be fantastic. Short of a vaccine that is a best case scenario. Keep the elderly and vulnerable home and let the virus sweep through the younger population and you will see far better outcomes than what we saw in the Northeast. Of course time will tell if older people in these States are hit hard as well.

Although some people report getting hit very lightly, at the level of a common cold or lighter. There are many younger people that report days of aches and pains. Some still have trouble breathing weeks and months later. And we don't know any long term effects.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1247 on: June 28, 2020, 11:03:15 AM »

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1248 on: June 29, 2020, 09:27:13 AM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/06/breaking-lakewood-reports-zero-new-covid-19-cases-first-time-since-testing-began.html

Im not sure what Lakewood could do further if they were TRYING to start a second wave. Chasunahs and Vorts every night with hundreds of people and no social distancing? Check. Thousand of kids cramming into classrooms with no masks? Check. Shuls packed shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of mispalelim? Check. Kiddushim and shalom zachors galore? Check. Thousands of yungerleit packed in botei medrashim for 9 hours a day? Check. Women and children crowding into stores with no masks? Check.

I am impressed at the bitachon of some who continue to insist a massive second wave is coming to Lakewood in the face of persistent indicators to the contrary.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1249 on: June 29, 2020, 12:16:40 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/06/breaking-lakewood-reports-zero-new-covid-19-cases-first-time-since-testing-began.html

Im not sure what Lakewood could do further if they were TRYING to start a second wave. Chasunahs and Vorts every night with hundreds of people and no social distancing? Check. Thousand of kids cramming into classrooms with no masks? Check. Shuls packed shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of mispalelim? Check. Kiddushim and shalom zachors galore? Check. Thousands of yungerleit packed in botei medrashim for 9 hours a day? Check. Women and children crowding into stores with no masks? Check.

I am impressed at the bitachon of some who continue to insist a massive second wave is coming to Lakewood in the face of persistent indicators to the contrary.
Source of someone insisting a massive second wave is coming to Lakewood?

I can think of some better options if they were trying to start a second wave. Introduce an infectious person into one of these situations. Have the people who were careful all along and still are and didnt get infected fully integrate.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1250 on: June 29, 2020, 12:46:15 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/06/breaking-lakewood-reports-zero-new-covid-19-cases-first-time-since-testing-began.html

Im not sure what Lakewood could do further if they were TRYING to start a second wave. Chasunahs and Vorts every night with hundreds of people and no social distancing? Check. Thousand of kids cramming into classrooms with no masks? Check. Shuls packed shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of mispalelim? Check. Kiddushim and shalom zachors galore? Check. Thousands of yungerleit packed in botei medrashim for 9 hours a day? Check. Women and children crowding into stores with no masks? Check.

I am impressed at the bitachon of some who continue to insist a massive second wave is coming to Lakewood in the face of persistent indicators to the contrary.


At this point, no one is insisting it anymore. There had been concern for months when there was little known about immunity. However, currently most (Lakewood) doctors believe there is some form of "mass" immunity which is keeping any possible spread down to a minimum.


I am personally of the opinion that we should take advantage of the current calm and allow people to "stretch their legs", before a possible resurgence if/when immunity wears off (see latest from Crown Heights on this).


Additionally, I have strong doubts that it will ever spread as quickly as it did the first time around since we now have better testing and more awareness amongst doctors and patients.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1251 on: June 29, 2020, 02:01:29 PM »

Im not sure what Lakewood could do further if they were TRYING to start a second wave. Chasunahs and Vorts every night with hundreds of people and no social distancing? Check. Thousand of kids cramming into classrooms with no masks? Check. Shuls packed shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of mispalelim? Check. Kiddushim and shalom zachors galore? Check. Thousands of yungerleit packed in botei medrashim for 9 hours a day? Check. Women and children crowding into stores with no masks? Check.

If the majority of people in Lakewood already had it, perhaps the people attending the simchas, etc are already immune?

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1252 on: June 29, 2020, 02:12:07 PM »
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I am impressed at the bitachon of some who continue to insist a massive second wave is coming to Lakewood in the face of persistent indicators to the contrary.

No one insists there will be a second wave in Lakewood, at least not on DDF. There are some who question the bitachon of those who insist it's not possible for the mageifa to revisit the community, given the apparent lack of hishtadlus in the scenarios you describe.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1253 on: June 29, 2020, 02:13:38 PM »
No one insists there will be a second wave in Lakewood, at least not on DDF. There are some who question the bitachon of those who insist it's not possible for the mageifa to revisit the community, given the apparent lack of hishtadlus in the scenarios you describe.
And no one chas v'shalom is hoping for yidden to get sick. So please stop saying it
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1254 on: June 29, 2020, 02:23:20 PM »
No one insists there will be a second wave in Lakewood, at least not on DDF. There are some who question the bitachon of those who insist it's not possible for the mageifa to revisit the community, given the apparent lack of hishtadlus in the scenarios you describe.
Government is "hoping" for a second wave in the winter.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1255 on: June 29, 2020, 03:06:20 PM »
Government is "hoping" for a second wave in the winter.
The deep state, right?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1256 on: June 29, 2020, 03:17:02 PM »
What I'm trying to understand.

Why are they even talking about a second wave in the winter? With flu you can see it coming already now and they get working on a vaccine, based on the flu in the southern hemisphere winter.
Why specifically winter, if they fear an eventual new strain? It's not like anywhere in the world has seen a confirmed new strain until now.
Also, if they are afraid about immunity wearing off before the fall arrives again, why aren't we seeing confirmed reinfections in SE Asia, where this has been around now for a half year? If it wears off after any period, we should have warning.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1257 on: June 29, 2020, 03:19:41 PM »
Also, the resistance of the scientific community to call what is clearly herd immunity by its name, is mind boggling. They have a mindset agenda.
There is no way to explain zero heimishe infections, despite being completely open for at least a month now at full capacity.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1258 on: June 29, 2020, 04:58:31 PM »
Also, the resistance of the scientific community to call what is clearly herd immunity by its name, is mind boggling. They have a mindset agenda.
There is no way to explain zero heimishe infections, despite being completely open for at least a month now at full capacity.

Is it really mind boggling that the scientific community hasnt addressed the heimish community yet?

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1259 on: June 29, 2020, 05:23:56 PM »
Is it really mind boggling that the scientific community hasnt addressed the heimish community yet?
No. But I do find it fascinating that other congregate settings across NY (Cuomo presented 4 today) led to a large amount of infections. Yet bli iyan hara so far there have been mass congregations in our communities with no distancing at all and nothing has happened.