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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1660 on: October 03, 2021, 12:37:21 PM »
This really isn't a lot in the big scheme.

Also, I think it's quite obvious why pretty much all treatments etc are being developed here. Profit is a major incentive for innovation.
The United States is pretty much sponsoring the entire world's socialized medicine.

Yup, I wonder what this drug cost to produce and how much it’ll sell for abroad.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1661 on: October 03, 2021, 06:30:49 PM »
Like the military researchers who concluded that a flying machine was impossible, shortly before the Wright brothers invented the plane?
As I said profit is generally the major driver of innovation but the AZN vaccine is one clear example of profit not being everything.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1662 on: December 08, 2021, 11:21:40 PM »
AstraZeneca’s COVID antibody cocktail Evusheld gets FDA approval (EUA?) for prophylactic use in immunocompromised individuals age 12+
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1664 on: December 23, 2021, 10:13:13 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-marches-toward-endemic-status-in-u-s-as-omicron-spreads-11640255407?mod=mhp

“Andrew Noymer, an infectious-disease epidemiologist and demographer at the University of California, Irvine, who studies the 1918 flu pandemic, said he expects variant-driven waves of Covid-19 to hit the U.S. periodically for decades, particularly in winter. Mortality will likely drop over time, as population immunity rises, he said. The price will likely be more disease and deaths among people most vulnerable to the virus.

“Covid is part of the woodwork now,” he said. “It’s part of the furniture.”

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1665 on: December 23, 2021, 10:33:27 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-marches-toward-endemic-status-in-u-s-as-omicron-spreads-11640255407?mod=mhp

“Andrew Noymer, an infectious-disease epidemiologist and demographer at the University of California, Irvine, who studies the 1918 flu pandemic, said he expects variant-driven waves of Covid-19 to hit the U.S. periodically for decades, particularly in winter. Mortality will likely drop over time, as population immunity rises, he said. The price will likely be more disease and deaths among people most vulnerable to the virus.

“Covid is part of the woodwork now,” he said. “It’s part of the furniture.”
This is the good news?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1666 on: December 23, 2021, 10:37:35 AM »
We’re so COVID fatigued nobody bothered to post this here:

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-first-oral-antiviral-treatment-covid-19
It's just an EUA.  Don't we need 10 years of clinical trials before we consider this "good news"?

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1667 on: December 23, 2021, 10:46:54 AM »
It's just an EUA.  Don't we need 10 years of clinical trials before we consider this "good news"?

Are you being sarcastic? This treatment will save lives, if they can ramp up production in time.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1668 on: December 23, 2021, 10:52:45 AM »
Are you being sarcastic? This treatment will save lives, if they can ramp up production in time.
Are you really questioning if that was sarcastic or not?  ;D

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1670 on: December 23, 2021, 11:36:04 AM »
This is the good news?
That we are starting to acknowledge the reality and restore a degree of normalcy? Yes.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1672 on: December 23, 2021, 12:07:04 PM »
Are you really questioning if that was sarcastic or not?  ;D

Demodded again.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1674 on: December 23, 2021, 12:10:50 PM »
And now Merck's drug as well, but it "only" reduces hospitalization/death by 30%.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/health/pfizer-antiviral-pill-authorized/index.html
Begining and end of the article contradict each other. Quite frankly, I'm concerned about the Merck pill and I don't see the need to approve it, especially as it is only 30% effective and there is a much more effective alternative.

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1675 on: December 23, 2021, 12:17:19 PM »
Begining and end of the article contradict each other. Quite frankly, I'm concerned about the Merck pill and I don't see the need to approve it, especially as it is only 30% effective and there is a much more effective alternative.

CNN articles are hastily cobbled together copypasta, if I wasn't lazy I'd find an official announcement like I did last time. The Pfizer antiviral is reportedly much more effective, but both these treatments will have scarce availability until supply outpaces demand, so if someone can only get a hold of the Merck treatment it's better than nothing.
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1676 on: December 23, 2021, 12:30:39 PM »
And now Merck's drug as well, but it "only" reduces hospitalization/death by 30%.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/health/pfizer-antiviral-pill-authorized/index.html
Surprised it got approved, after discussion of possible side effects.  No /s here.

Scoot down to the bottom, "Weighing up the risks", and note that this is a serious scientific journal, not conspiracy theorists.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03667-0

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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1677 on: December 23, 2021, 12:30:44 PM »
That we are starting to acknowledge the reality and restore a degree of normalcy? Yes.
Where does it say anything about restoring normalcy?
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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1678 on: December 23, 2021, 12:38:55 PM »
Where does it say anything about restoring normalcy?

It’s part of the path to recovery. We are somewhere between Bargaining and Depression.


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Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
« Reply #1679 on: December 23, 2021, 02:40:09 PM »
Where does it say anything about restoring normalcy?
“The CDC says a disease is endemic when it is continuously circulating in an area at a baseline level and in a predictable pattern. A lack of social disruption is another hallmark of an endemic disease, some public-health experts said.

The question then becomes: How much risk and how many Covid-19 deaths will people and governments tolerate?

“That’s where the political and social will part comes in,” said Lisa Lee, an infectious-disease epidemiologist and associate vice president at Virginia Tech. Without some sustained precautions, “we will stay vulnerable,” she said.“

“More than 1,200 people in the U.S. are dying of Covid-19 each day. But even at far higher levels of death and transmission than are typical for the flu, public-health experts say Covid-19’s spread will likely settle into a pattern predictable enough to be considered endemic.“