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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #420 on: April 20, 2020, 07:55:17 PM »
I think the story is fair and newsworthy. Believe me, there's no love lost between me and the Forward.
It was written fairly but is based on one anonymous source with no collaboration. An unnamed school having classes in an unnamed location reported by an unnamed individual.  Also it wasn't clear if this is going on now or a few weeks ago.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #421 on: April 20, 2020, 08:02:53 PM »
It was written fairly but is based on one anonymous source with no collaboration. An unnamed school having classes in an unnamed location reported by an unnamed individual.  Also it wasn't clear if this is going on now or a few weeks ago.
I think a blacked out screen shot would be good to add, and if they know what school it is they should request comment from the school. But higher profile stories are broken on less than this.
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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #422 on: April 20, 2020, 10:54:31 PM »
I think a blacked out screen shot would be good to add, and if they know what school it is they should request comment from the school. But higher profile stories are broken on less than this.
Why is there two paragraphs tying it to Hareidim and Lakewood? pure bigotry.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #424 on: April 21, 2020, 12:46:58 PM »
I remember always hearing that (insert gadolís name here) said the reason for sports, shows etc. is to keep people busy and at bay so as not to be constantly busy hating on the Jews. In these times you can see that...

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #425 on: April 21, 2020, 12:57:48 PM »
I remember always hearing that (insert gadolís name here) said the reason for sports, shows etc. is to keep people busy and at bay so as not to be constantly busy hating on the Jews. In these times you can see that...
Were there no sports in December?
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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #426 on: April 21, 2020, 02:54:52 PM »
Were there no sports in December?
אלא שבכל דור ודור עומדים עלינו לכלותינו והקב׳׳ה מצילנו מידם, not only during a pandemic.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #427 on: April 21, 2020, 03:33:23 PM »
I think a blacked out screen shot would be good to add, and if they know what school it is they should request comment from the school. But higher profile stories are broken on less than this.
I take back my comments. No mention was made of an attempt to reach the school for comment. The result was possibly a misleading or downright false story.


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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #429 on: April 21, 2020, 04:14:36 PM »
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/brooklyn-yeshivas-moving-underground-to-avoid-lockdown-rules/

Unfortunately the NY Compost has now picked up this story. Not only that they even got Moster the moiser on the case.
Their signature lines:

"according to a report"
"a source told The Forward."

Concluding with: "yeshiva advocate Nafulti Moster told The Post on Tuesday"

Well, thanks God they aren't taken serious.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #430 on: April 21, 2020, 06:03:31 PM »
Their signature lines:

"according to a report"
"a source told The Forward."

Concluding with: "yeshiva advocate Nafulti Moster told The Post on Tuesday"

Well, thanks God they aren't taken serious.
And the next sentence is "Moster and others have accused yeshivas of failing to teach secular subjects in favor of religious immersion in recent years"
Interesting advocacy.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #431 on: April 21, 2020, 10:46:18 PM »
Their signature lines:

"according to a report"
"a source told The Forward."

Concluding with: "yeshiva advocate Nafulti Moster told The Post on Tuesday"

Well, thanks God they aren't taken serious.

I know & you know that Moster is a ....... but the goy reading the paper doesnt know.....

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #432 on: April 21, 2020, 10:47:47 PM »
Don't think this is direct antisemitism. I think it is a result from the narrative that antisemitism has built.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #433 on: April 21, 2020, 10:49:34 PM »
Don't think this is direct antisemitism. I think it is a result from the narrative that antisemitism has built.

this is precisely why Lakewood has to go above & beyond with minyanim, shopping etc. to make sure there is no aiva. Every move a yid makes here is watched by hungry dogs

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #434 on: April 21, 2020, 10:59:15 PM »


this is precisely why Lakewood has to go above & beyond all the time not just with minyanim, shopping etc. to make sure there is no aiva. Every move a yid makes here is watched by hungry dogs always not just now.
Ftfy
Glad people are finally starting to wake up, but it will take more than just complying with social distancing.....

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #435 on: April 21, 2020, 11:41:41 PM »
Don't think this is direct antisemitism. I think it is a result from the narrative that antisemitism has built.
What does it mean "being told to self isolate"

Almost the whole country is under stay at home orders. Is there something else in NY and Lakewood I don't know about?

That being said the singling out of Lakewood might not be Antisemitism just practically they have a fairly high number of patients from Lakewood.

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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #436 on: April 21, 2020, 11:47:10 PM »
Don't think this is direct antisemitism. I think it is a result from the narrative that antisemitism has built.

This is crazy! Lakewood is number 51 in NJ coronavirus rates per capita.


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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #437 on: April 22, 2020, 12:43:25 AM »
This is crazy! Lakewood is number 51 in NJ coronavirus rates per capita.

We keep quoting stats about how Lakewood has so many fewer cases than some other place in NJ or the US as if it's going to stop anti-Semitism. Haters gonna hate. The narrative just changes to, "Those Jews spread that thing around, used up all the hospital beds, and left the rest of us to suffer their consequences."
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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #438 on: April 22, 2020, 01:01:52 AM »
We keep quoting stats about how Lakewood has so many fewer cases than some other place in NJ or the US as if it's going to stop anti-Semitism. Haters gonna hate. The narrative just changes to, "Those Jews spread that thing around, used up all the hospital beds, and left the rest of us to suffer their consequences."
+1000 Changing the complaint isnít news, everyone does it. But we shouldnít be feeding them, we do need to be careful.

As Iíve pointed out elsewhere, the same people who said it was the flu, when forced to back down, then said well driving also kills people, when they realized that straw man doesnít work, they said well now everyone already has it so this isnít worth it, when they realized thatís not true, they said well a second wave will be deadlier so letís try to have everyone get it slowly and steadily.. same argument, different reasons, because itís not about the facts, itís an agenda.

People with an agenda will always look for and find an excuse, but we should prevent them having more fodder to throw to those as yet undecided.
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Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
« Reply #439 on: April 22, 2020, 01:10:48 AM »
This is crazy! Lakewood is at least number 51 in NJ coronavirus rates per capita.
FTFY.

There may be many more towns with a higher per capita rate.