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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #360 on: June 03, 2020, 02:13:38 PM »
@yungermanchik Youíre lying. You misread the chart and made a stupid mistake, which is why you deleted your post (which everyone can still see where I quoted you). Itís fine to make a mistake, weíre all human. I called you out but youíre not man enough to apologize and admit you were wrong, so you deleted the post and now youíre trying to double down. I was working with exactly the demographics on that website, and thatís exactly what I said.

Itís ok to make mistakes, but the right thing to do now would be to admit you were wrong and move on instead of trying to create new avenues to attack.
The reason I deleted my post is because I
Reread what I wrote and what you posted :)
And I saw that is wasn't were you were talking about. But, I later realized that there was a reason that I assumed it was
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We misread your post because we didn't imagine that you would create a super-demographic to try to spin the story your way. We thought you were working with the demographics on that website.
Now look at the chart that I posted (note that I only checked the boxes for 18-49 and 65+) and see if I misread your post or the chart:
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #361 on: June 03, 2020, 02:14:02 PM »
How are they choosing which 20? Who is controlling entry and how? Doesnít 770 (not 784/788) have itís own address? Canít they allow another 10 there? Minyan only the Rebbeís room?

IDK how they are choosing the 20, I can only guess that it's a combination of merit and luck. Can't tell you which individual is in charge of the names, I'm assuming that Kratz/Vail/Shuchat are the one's controlling entry.

20 is because the Kingston women's section has a Kingston Avenue address, so 10 there and 10 in 770.

I have no clue about the Rebbe's room.
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« Reply #362 on: June 03, 2020, 02:22:16 PM »
The fact that many people misunderstood is very telling.
Yes, itís telling. Can you spell d*i*s*s*o*n*a*n*c*e?

This isnít the first time in this thread that you have falsely accused me. I have proven the first time you did it false, despite your cop-out. Naturally I didnít get an acknowledgement or an apology from you but that was expected. I think itís ok to want to defend myself when youíre falsely accusing me of something once more.

I'm done with this petty argument.
Ah, youíre done now?

You should probably stop running up to and tripping old widows. Itís unfair and mean, and can cause serious repercussions to them. So unbecoming.
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« Reply #363 on: June 03, 2020, 02:27:51 PM »
The reason I deleted my post is because I And I saw that is wasn't were you were talking about. But, I later realized that there was a reason that I assumed it wasNow look at the chart that I posted (note that I only checked the boxes for 18-49 and 65+) and see if I misread your post or the chart:
For the purpose of intellectual honesty, please acknowledge that the chart you originally posted included the 50-64 bracket as well. You can revise history all you want but thatís not even the chart you originally posted.

I didnít create a super-demographic. Thatís you putting a spin on it once more. I very clearly delineated 18-49 and 18-64, which are the actual lines that the CDC provided. I did not choose them or decide them, they were judged relevant by the website.

So your argument that somehow anything was misleading was that I didnít specifically choose lines that *donít* prove the point I was trying to bring out? Were you following the conversation?
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #364 on: June 03, 2020, 02:31:04 PM »
For the purpose of intellectual honesty, please acknowledge that the chart you originally posted included the 50-64 bracket as well. You can revise history all you want but thatís not even the chart you originally posted.

That is a complete and total lie. I only have this one chart downloaded and that is the one I posted back then. So, instead of accusing me of lying, why don't you admit that it is YOU who is being dishonest here.
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #365 on: June 03, 2020, 02:31:24 PM »
The reason I deleted my post is because I And I saw that is wasn't were you were talking about. But, I later realized that there was a reason that I assumed it wasNow look at the chart that I posted (note that I only checked the boxes for 18-49 and 65+) and see if I misread your post or the chart:
Letís use just the chart you posted. Do you not see that 18-49 make up about half of the hospitalizations that 65+ do? How does that resonate with the argument that the risk to the young is negligible, and the only people affected are old people? How in any way does that not prove my point exactly? Many many young people are hospitalized. You can come up with theories to help explain it but it doesnít take away from the point I was making,
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #366 on: June 03, 2020, 02:33:32 PM »
That is a complete and total lie. I only have this one chart downloaded and that is the one I posted back then. So, instead of accusing me of lying, why don't you admit that it is YOU who is being dishonest here.
Itís possible that I am thinking of the chart @yaakov35 posted, which does show that. I apologize if thatís true. I didnít screenshot it so there is no way for me to know if itís true.

Now, will you answer the point? And I accused you of lying about something else. Was I wrong?
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #367 on: June 03, 2020, 02:39:49 PM »
Lets go back to your original post
Per the CDC, there have been more COVID patients hospitalized between 18-64 than 65+. Almost half of those are 49 or younger.

ďpreexisting conditionsĒ arenít always known prior, and obesity is considered a significant comorbidity.
I admit, I speed-read and when I saw 18- , I assumed it was one demographic(ie 18-49) not 2 lumped together (18-49 + 50-64)
That is all that happened. My assumption is that you wrote it that way as a ploy to spin it your way because I think many others also speed-read that way. If that was not your intent, my apologies.
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #368 on: June 03, 2020, 02:42:21 PM »
Lets go back to your original post I admit, I speed-read and when I saw 18- , I assumed it was one demographic(ie 18-49) not 2 lumped together (18-49 + 50-64)
That is all that happened. My assumption is that you wrote it that way as a ploy to spin it your way because I think many others also speed-read that way. If that was not your intent, my apologies.
Iíll take what I can get :)

I really donít understand how it can have been interpreted like that, when I clearly delineated further along in the sentence, but I guess Iíll have to take your word on it
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #369 on: June 03, 2020, 02:49:59 PM »
My first grader started an hour and a half of in person class yesterday (hosted in a house). I happened to pass by today and heard his Rebbi instructing the kids (upon conclusion) to close the Chumoshim, and whoever wants to may also kiss the Chumash, it's optional.  :D
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« Reply #370 on: June 03, 2020, 02:52:47 PM »
My first grader started an hour and a half of in person class yesterday (hosted in a house). I happened to pass by today and heard his Rebbi instructing the kids (upon conclusion) to close the Chumoshim, and whoever wants to may also kiss the Chumash, it's optional.  :D
This is starting soon in Lakewood as well, though I think more outdoors. Are there any specific safety measures they are taking, or just that itís done in a house instead of school?
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #371 on: June 03, 2020, 03:18:27 PM »
Yes, itís telling. Can you spell d*i*s*s*o*n*a*n*c*e?

This isnít the first time in this thread that you have falsely accused me. I have proven the first time you did it false, despite your cop-out. Naturally I didnít get an acknowledgement or an apology from you but that was expected. I think itís ok to want to defend myself when youíre falsely accusing me of something once more.
Ah, youíre done now?

You should probably stop running up to and tripping old widows. Itís unfair and mean, and can cause serious repercussions to them. So unbecoming.
I'm not going to continue having a pissing match, but I will defend myself.

You have helped me understand the gemara "kol haposel bemumo posel". I have never falsely accused you, but you have the nerve to say I falsely accused you twice! Oh, remember cognitive dissonance.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #372 on: June 03, 2020, 03:23:04 PM »
I'm not going to continue having a pissing match, but I will defend myself.

You have helped me understand the gemara "kol haposel bemumo posel". I have never falsely accused you, but you have the nerve to say I falsely accused you twice! Oh, remember cognitive dissonance.
So what would you call this? Truthfully accusing me?
You were definitely denying it a few weeks ago.
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Re: yeshivas that are open
« Reply #373 on: June 03, 2020, 03:28:49 PM »
So what would you call this? Truthfully accusing me?
Umm yes.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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« Reply #374 on: June 03, 2020, 03:30:16 PM »
Or this?
Instead of attacking everyone for misreading your misleading post, you should probably stop while you're not so far behind and admit your post was misleading.
Remember, the other 2 people who went down that path both admitted they made a mistake
I admit, I speed-read and when I saw 18- , I assumed it was one demographic(ie 18-49) not 2 lumped together (18-49 + 50-64)
That is all that happened. My assumption is that you wrote it that way as a ploy to spin it your way because I think many others also speed-read that way. If that was not your intent, my apologies.

18-64 is 54% of hospitalizions. 18-49 is 44% of the 18-64, therefore 18-49 is 24% of total hospitalizations. I didn't read numbers on the bottom so I was off....
By grouping it all together you came out with a misconstrued statement, which is very misleading

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