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[avromie7]

Both good points. Both don’t contradict my premise. The risk to the young is NOT “negligible”.

You keep missing the very important word "healthy". Of course there are young people who are at higher risk, but young healthy people are not at significant risk.

ETA: @avromie7 Is it safe to say you were surprised to see that and are trying to find a reason for why it might not be true?

I'm not sure why it's relevant, I saw the numbers you posted and said something looks wrong, so I looked again and realized you were intentionally using misleading numbers.

[Lurker]

How many of those 4k in the US or 14k worldwide were "healthy" and how many had preexisting conditions?

Purely anecdotal, but I know of a bunch of serious hospitalizations (incubations) that were in their 30's with no known pre-existing conditions. I also know that I am not alone here with that knowledge.

[S209]

One is a group covering 30 years, and the other 15 years. And there are still more hospitalizations in the 50-64 than 18-49. The point is, if you are over 50, you are higher risk. If you are under 50, you are by no means "safe" or "immune" and should definitely be taking precautions to make sure you don't get sick. Under 50 still accounts for about a quarter of all hospitalizations, and I think we can all agree that under 50's are less likely to go to the hospital unless things have gotten bad or that have other underlying issues.

My point is, setting the line at 50 does not take away from the severity of the situation for the people you're trying to convince to take this seriously. Setting it over 50 (at 65) may make them disregard the severity.

There may have been other/better arguments to be made to convince people of the dangers but that is what I wrote and there was nothing misleading about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not to their own facts.

[S209]

I'm not sure why it's relevant, I saw the numbers you posted and said something looks wrong, so I looked again and realized you were intentionally using misleading numbers.

There you go again. Misleading how? Do I need to find an old post of mine again that shows you that I wasn’t misleading? In what way did the chart not show EXACTLY what I posited in my post?

[S209]

This

What’s your point? That’s not what I said.

[Lurker]

There may have been other/better arguments to be made to convince people of the dangers but that is what I wrote and there was nothing misleading about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not to their own facts.

I never disputed what you said. I don't think it was factually incorrect or misleading. I only think that it is being dismissed by some because of where the line was set.

[S209]

You keep missing the very important word "healthy". Of course there are young people who are at higher risk, but young healthy people are not at significant risk.

Do I keep missing it, or did you miss the other half of my post?

“preexisting conditions” aren’t always known prior, and obesity is considered a significant comorbidity.

[S209]

I never disputed what you said. I don't think it was factually incorrect or misleading. I only think that it is being dismissed by some because of where the line was set.

Which is why I also made sure to note that a large percentage of those were under 50

[avromie7]

There you go again. Misleading how? Do I need to find an old post of mine again that shows you that I wasn’t misleading? In what way did the chart not show EXACTLY what I posited in my post?

Your post makes it sound like hospitalizations at least as prevelant in young people as old people.

Do I keep missing it, or did you miss the other half of my post?

Even if you include people who didn't know in the "healthy" group, they'll still consist of a very small percentage.

[Something Fishy]

So my daughter's school is beginning 1-hour sessions tomorrow in some girl's house, half the class at a time. I can't risk getting covid, even if I'm healthy.

I'm extremely torn.

[Dan]

So my daughter's school is beginning 1-hour sessions tomorrow in some girl's house, half the class at a time. I can't risk getting covid, even if I'm healthy.

I'm extremely torn.

If you can't risk it then why are you torn?

[Something Fishy]

If you can't risk it then why are you torn?

Because there are plenty good reasons why she should go, and there are indications that children don't transmit.

On the other hand, nobody knows nothing and the risk might still be there.

[avromie7]

Because there are plenty good reasons why she should go, and there are indications that children don't transmit.

On the other hand, nobody knows nothing and the risk might still be there.

Discuss it with your Dr and/or Rabbi. Whichever way they tell you to go you'll know you did the correct thing.

[Euclid]

So my daughter's school is beginning 1-hour sessions tomorrow in some girl's house, half the class at a time. I can't risk getting covid, even if I'm healthy.

I'm extremely torn.

Didn't you go to shul this past shabbos; isn't that also a similar risk?

[Something Fishy]

Didn't you go to shul this past shabbos; isn't that also a similar risk?

I socially distanced in shul.

[biobook]

So my daughter's school is beginning 1-hour sessions tomorrow in some girl's house, half the class at a time. I can't risk getting covid, even if I'm healthy.

I'm extremely torn.

I'm sure you won't be the only parent to wait longer, if that's what you decide.

[yelped]

I'm sure you won't be the only parent to wait longer, if that's what you decide.

I wish you were right...

[mgarfin]

I'm sure you won't be the only parent to wait longer, if that's what you decide.

All kids in my 3 children's class are attending similar group classes. Including a Dr's children

[Lurker]

All kids in my 3 children's class are attending similar group classes. Including a Dr's children

Hence the conflict. Not everyone is so careful, which increases his risk by X amount, which is isn't sure if he's comfortable taking.

[mgarfin]

Hence the conflict. Not everyone is so careful, which increases his risk by X amount, which is isn't sure if he's comfortable taking.

Didn't disagree with your comment

I was just pointing out that relying on not everybody attending may not be accurate. For my understanding he's in Monsey And it's probably a chasidush cheder.

Fully understand that the kids want to go And he probably doesn't want them to fall back academically