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Did you cancel your cleaning help because of COVID-19?

Yes
32 (47.8%)
No
22 (32.8%)
I would but my wife won’t let
13 (19.4%)

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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2020, 08:56:38 AM »


This is a very common misconception, and is probably part of the confusion and misinformation surrounding the virus.

If you share close quarters with someone positive, you have a 10% chance of catching it. On the flip side, even without sharing close contact with someone, there’s a significant chance of catching it through short casual contact. Of course not close to 10%, but the more interactions you have with people, the higher the odds go. I don’t have the source right now but will try to edit it in later.

So everyone who shares quarters with someone positive: there is a very decent chance you have it, and therefore you need to be extra careful. However, do NOT assume “I for sure have it”, because believe it or not, odds are you don’t.

Certainly, the more interactions you have with the infected person the higher the chances. If they sneeze into your mouth, you probably will get it. But you can still not have it, and get it from someone else, so still be careful!

Not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but they certainly aren't representative for a husband and wife living together in fairly cramped space over a relatively long period of time with 4 young children - including a nursing baby who gets passed between parents all the time.

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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2020, 09:09:31 AM »
This is a very common misconception, and is probably part of the confusion and misinformation surrounding the virus.

If you share close quarters with someone positive, you have a 10% chance of catching it. On the flip side, even without sharing close contact with someone, there’s a significant chance of catching it through short casual contact. Of course not close to 10%, but the more interactions you have with people, the higher the odds go. I don’t have the source right now but will try to edit it in later.

So everyone who shares quarters with someone positive: there is a very decent chance you have it, and therefore you need to be extra careful. However, do NOT assume “I for sure have it”, because believe it or not, odds are you don’t.

Certainly, the more interactions you have with the infected person the higher the chances. If they sneeze into your mouth, you probably will get it. But you can still not have it, and get it from someone else, so still be careful!
So are you saying in a family of 11 living in the same household if one person has it probably only one other person out of the ten will get it from that person?
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2020, 09:29:38 AM »
So are you saying in a family of 11 living in the same household if one person has it probably only one other person out of the ten will get it from that person?
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2020, 10:23:55 AM »
To many unknown variables.
sounds like you and @S209 have all the variables figured out
s=0.1
N=10


Though you should probably increase s once more than 1 household member gets infected, and that's inconsistent with the binomial model.
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2020, 10:05:56 AM »
Very passive-aggressively racist   ;)
Wouldn't it just be straight out racist?
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2020, 10:22:24 AM »
Wouldn't it just be straight out racist?

Or just realist

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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2020, 10:24:22 AM »
Or just realist
Going to have to keep that line in mind.  ;)
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2020, 10:34:47 AM »
Very passive-aggressively racist   ;)

Must have missed it... Which part?
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2020, 10:36:14 AM »
Must have missed it... Which part?
Not having "them" come to the house because now they have it?
Seems the opposite of not servicing "your" car because you have it.
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2020, 10:52:46 AM »
Not having "them" come to the house because now they have it?
Seems the opposite of not servicing "your" car because you have it.
Agreed, but there is a difference between someone being in your house and someone dropping off a car.
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2020, 11:04:03 AM »
Agreed, but there is a difference between someone being in your house and someone dropping off a car.

There is a difference, but the argument can be made that discrimination is discrimination.

That said, how is that relevant? The letter I read essentially said, "This isn't over. There is no cure yet. You may be able to be reinfected. Keep everyone out of your house. Social distance. Dont let your kids play with other kids. Don't rehire your cleaning help. And if you're the type who thinks 'we all had it, we're fine,' the other communities in our township are currently experiencing high infection rates, so don't play around."
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2020, 11:16:17 AM »
Agreed, but there is a difference between someone being in your house and someone dropping off a car.
Ok so one is 60% discrimination and the other is 70 (pick your numbers). Is that better?
We have been around the block on this to many times. So lets get back OT.

Why do you have cleaning help to begin with? It seems many do.
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2020, 11:25:51 AM »
Why do you have cleaning help to begin with? It seems many do.
To take some of the burden of running a large household off of my wife and myself. Another reason many do is to enable them to work longer hours.
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2020, 11:31:14 AM »
To take some of the burden of running a large household off of my wife and myself. Another reason many do is to enable them to work longer hours.
Would you say the average Jewish household in your community have one or both spouses working fulltime?
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2020, 11:42:38 AM »
Would you say the average Jewish household in your community have one or both spouses working fulltime?
both, definitely if you count a full time student as full time.
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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2020, 03:20:23 PM »
Would you say the average Jewish household in your community have one or both spouses working fulltime?
you never heard of a jew-ta?

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Re: Did you cancel your cleaning help?
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2020, 03:22:23 PM »
you never heard of a jew-ta?
No. Do I need to get out more?
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