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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1320 on: March 17, 2021, 03:40:28 PM »
37.6% fully vaccinated, 65.4% with at least one shot.

Thanks! Much more significant than any natural immunity IMHO. Though both are significant contributing factors overall.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1321 on: March 17, 2021, 04:19:04 PM »
As we've seen in Israel, the vaccine effect takes a few weeks more to kick in on a large scale to see it in the numbers. There shouldn't be much effect in the US yet.

People testing positive now might have gotten it a week ago, and we'd expect them to be two weeks after the second shot at that time to not catch it.

So in reality, today's lower numbers are more about coming down from a big wave, than the vaccines. 6 weeks ago, not that many people were vaccinated to affect the country's numbers.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1322 on: March 17, 2021, 04:23:28 PM »
As we've seen in Israel, the vaccine effect takes a few weeks more to kick in on a large scale to see it in the numbers. There shouldn't be much effect in the US yet.

People testing positive now might have gotten it a week ago, and we'd expect them to be two weeks after the second shot at that time to not catch it.

So in reality, today's lower numbers are more about coming down from a big wave, than the vaccines. 6 weeks ago, not that many people were vaccinated to affect the country's numbers.

Yes and no. Comparing the US to Israel is apples to oranges because Israel's vaccination campaign went on/peaked while COVID was otherwise on the rise, vs. the US where COVID numbers are falling.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1323 on: March 17, 2021, 04:38:04 PM »
Yes and no. Comparing the US to Israel is apples to oranges because Israel's vaccination campaign went on/peaked while COVID was otherwise on the rise, vs. the US where COVID numbers are falling.

Completely agree.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1324 on: March 17, 2021, 05:21:39 PM »
As we've seen in Israel, the vaccine effect takes a few weeks more to kick in on a large scale to see it in the numbers. There shouldn't be much effect in the US yet.

People testing positive now might have gotten it a week ago, and we'd expect them to be two weeks after the second shot at that time to not catch it.

So in reality, today's lower numbers are more about coming down from a big wave, than the vaccines. 6 weeks ago, not that many people were vaccinated to affect the country's numbers.

My opinion has been that a third wave should be starting right about now (mid-March). I think that the vax drives will keep the wave from gaining as much traction early on. Also, IINM, the second dose is more for longevity than for effectiveness, with short-term efficacy estimates of the first shot at between 65%-90%, so some effect would be seen 10-14 days after the first dose.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1325 on: March 24, 2021, 02:31:02 PM »
https://defector.com/inside-the-chaotic-quasi-legal-marketplace-for-personal-protective-equipment/

I don't get why people in grey/black markets would ever talk to the press.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1326 on: March 24, 2021, 03:32:12 PM »
I don't get why people in grey/black markets would ever talk to the press.
What are they hoping to accomplish?
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1329 on: April 11, 2021, 03:16:26 AM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/pandemic-covid-hasidic-jews-yiddish/618539/
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I've never came across der veker yet, anyone else did? What is it typically about, besides for their Covid criticism?

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1330 on: April 11, 2021, 05:19:00 AM »
Another Moster at heart

That wasn't how he came across to me.
Edit: On second thought, that was an understatement.

I've never came across der veker yet, anyone else did?

I think I ran into its Amazon listings a while back due to them showing up on the first page of Google results for "kaveshtiebel."
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1331 on: April 11, 2021, 05:38:58 AM »
That wasn't how he came across to me.
Much easier to execute the messenger than to do honest reflection
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1332 on: April 11, 2021, 08:25:24 AM »
Another Moster at heart, but not ready to lose his wife and kids yet, nunu.

Why do we have to label anyone with a different opinion as the worst of the worst? Not everyone with opinions about education is Moster. We're missing nuance... again.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1333 on: April 11, 2021, 08:53:21 AM »
Another Moster at heart, but not ready to lose his wife and kids yet, nunu.
The flippancy and threatening nature of this post is jarring

I wonder what percentage of the community actually likes the rules the east they are and what are just afraid to be thrown out
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1334 on: April 11, 2021, 08:58:12 AM »
Much easier to execute the messenger than to do honest reflection

Til I got to this sentence....

"Itís a common belief among Hasidim that Bill Gates designed the vaccines so that a GPS tracking device could be implanted in peopleís arms"

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« Reply #1335 on: April 11, 2021, 09:04:47 AM »
Til I got to this sentence....

"Itís a common belief among Hasidim that Bill Gates designed the vaccines so that a GPS tracking device could be implanted in peopleís arms"
Donít know how prevalent it is but Iíve encountered it plenty.
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« Reply #1336 on: April 11, 2021, 09:08:30 AM »
Til I got to this sentence....

"Itís a common belief among Hasidim that Bill Gates designed the vaccines so that a GPS tracking device could be implanted in peopleís arms"

Common doesn't mean it's a majority opinion. It's definitely an opinion that I've heard from more frum Jews than I'd care to admit.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1337 on: April 11, 2021, 09:11:28 AM »
Why do we have to label anyone with a different opinion as the worst of the worst? Not everyone with opinions about education is Moster. We're missing nuance... again.

Common doesn't mean it's a majority opinion. It's definitely an opinion that I've heard from more frum Jews than I'd care to admit.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1338 on: April 11, 2021, 09:16:48 AM »
Til I got to this sentence....

"Itís a common belief among Hasidim that Bill Gates designed the vaccines so that a GPS tracking device could be implanted in peopleís arms"

Iíve heard so much anti-vaxxing lately from what I thought weíre competent people in our community. And they all parrot back the same talking points but have no real/deep understanding of the issues and thus canít really get into the details when I try to delve in with them.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1339 on: April 11, 2021, 09:18:15 AM »
The flippancy and threatening nature of this post is jarring


I don't believe he meant it to be threatening. IINM, it was a reference to the interviewee's own response to why he doesn't leave. The part that should have been highlighted, though, was when he said he didn't want to leave because he didn't want to lose himself. His personal disappointment and shame in the Covid response doesn't outweigh his identity as a Chassidic Jew. This is a sentiment I can sympathize with.
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