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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1400 on: June 17, 2021, 09:52:37 PM »
Pretty extensive study, nearly 400 COVID-19 patients studied (and a similar amount of control patients studied). Let’s hope this is temporary and has no significant long term ramifications.
Right. This is the really scary part of (mild cases of) Covid; nobody knows the long term effects. Ditto for the vaccines.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1401 on: June 17, 2021, 10:00:04 PM »
Right. This is the really scary part of (mild cases of) Covid; nobody knows the long term effects. Ditto for the vaccines.

My biggest concern with the vaccines was dosage. A regular vaccine for measles or whatnot, you get a dose that’ll give you 70% efficacy when there’s an outbreak here and there. With COVID-19 being rampant my guess is they needed higher than usual dosage to get 90%+ efficacy numbers that really move the needle when the pandemic is in a full blown wave and evolving so quickly due to so many cases.

The myocarditis issues that were associated with vaccination were in young males, brought on by too-strong an immune response, a lower dose might not have brought that on.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1402 on: June 17, 2021, 10:02:59 PM »
My biggest concern with the vaccines was dosage. A regular vaccine for measles or whatnot, you get a dose that’ll give you 70% efficacy when there’s an outbreak here and there. With COVID-19 being rampant my guess is they needed higher than usual dosage to get 90%+ efficacy numbers that really move the needle when the pandemic is in a full blown wave and evolving so quickly due to so many cases.

The myocarditis issues that were associated with vaccination were in young males, brought on by too-strong an immune response, a lower dose might not have brought that on.
Good point, but I am much more concerned with the possibility of things nobody is even thinking about at this time.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1403 on: June 17, 2021, 10:03:56 PM »
Good point, but I am much more concerned with the possibility of things nobody is even thinking about at this time.

Hopefully that won’t materialize, and if it does, hopefully it’ll be very rare and treatable.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1404 on: June 17, 2021, 10:04:56 PM »
Hopefully that won’t materialize, and if it does, hopefully it’ll be very rare and treatable.
Of course. But "hopefully" is nothing more than hope.  :)

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1406 on: June 18, 2021, 12:17:40 AM »
im not sure how this article can be at all reliable when it comes down to this...
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said Gottlieb, who serves on the board of Covid vaccine-maker Pfizer.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1407 on: June 18, 2021, 12:24:39 AM »
im not sure how this article can be at all reliable when it comes down to this...
I'm not sure why they needed to bring his opinion into the picture, the study stands on its own.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258690v1.full.pdf

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1409 on: June 21, 2021, 03:31:57 PM »
Interesting Articles:?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx5dg5/the-covid-pandemic-tested-family-relationships-haredi-community-where-do-we-go-from-here-v28n2
Interesting read. I appreciated the writing style, not the typical spiteful piece of an ex-community member.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1415 on: July 13, 2021, 02:17:42 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309793

Coffee offers protection against COVID-19


Really? :-\

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1416 on: July 13, 2021, 03:54:53 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309793

Coffee offers protection against COVID-19


Really? :-\

To me this is obviously, coffee makes people alert and alert people pay better attention to avoiding COVID...

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1417 on: July 13, 2021, 08:55:30 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309793

Coffee offers protection against COVID-19


Really? :-\
Uh... no.  Makes a good story, but not exactly what the article says.  That is, it hints at that, but it's not really solid evidence.

Dietary Behaviors and Incident COVID-19 in the UK Biobank, by Vu et al.
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/6/2114/htm

The UK Biobank is a project to collect data on health and behavior from a large group of people, and follow them over time.  The authors were able to use that data, which includes reports from people about their diet, and look for correlations with their covid-19 test results. 

They found that those who tested positive for covid-19 were a bit more likely to have reported a) drinking at least one cup of coffee per day, b) eating above the average servings of vegetables, c) not eating much processed meat, and d) having been breast-fed as an infant. 

One obvious reason why this is not strong evidence is that diet was reported in 2006-2010, while covid tests were obviously at least 10 years later than that, so we can't be certain that they continued to eat the same diet in 2020.

The authors themselves admit that the data needs to be confirmed by other studies before we accept it as significant, and that even if there is a correlation, it doesn't imply that the coffee/veggie diet itself caused the somewhat lower risk of covid.

In fact, the best interpretation at this point would be what AsherO said, without any need for the /s.

To me this is obviously, coffee makes people alert and alert people pay better attention to avoiding COVID...

/s

Also, most people have heard that it's healthier to eat more vegetables and less processed meat, and those who adhere to those guidelines are also more likely to have adhered to the advice given to avoid covid.

I don't know why the news articles are quoting the coffee part, but this group of scientists has studied effects of coffee in the past, so perhaps that was emphasized somewhere and the reporters latched on to that.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1418 on: July 13, 2021, 09:25:15 PM »
I don't know why the news articles are quoting the coffee part,
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #1419 on: July 13, 2021, 09:30:17 PM »
I don't know why the news articles are quoting the coffee part
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