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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2020, 11:48:36 AM »
Very preliminary theory and I am not an MD. 

1.  COVID-19 "utilizes ACE-2 as a cellular entry receptor" by binding to it.
Quote taken from https://www.rndsystems.com/resources/articles/ace-2-sars-receptor-identified

2.  "It is mainly expressed in vascular endothelial cells, the renal tubular epithelium, and in Leydig cells in the testes.15,16 PCR analysis revealed that ACE-2 is also expressed in the lung, kidney, and gastrointestinal tract, tissues shown to harbor SARS-CoV."
Quote taken from https://www.rndsystems.com/resources/articles/ace-2-sars-receptor-identified

3.  "The results indicate that ACE2 highly expresses in renal tubular cells, Leydig cells and cells in seminiferous ducts in testis. Therefore, virus might directly bind to such ACE2 positive cells and damage the kidney and testicular tissue of patients."
Quote from https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339243337_ACE2_Expression_in_Kidney_and_Testis_May_Cause_Kidney_and_Testis_Damage_After_2019-nCoV_Infection

4.  "The seminiferous tubules are the site of the germination, maturation, and transportation of the sperm cells within the male testes."
quote from https://www.innerbody.com/anatomy/male-reproductive/seminiferous-tubules

This has, obviously, larger implications if true.
But can they infect the female?
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2020, 11:54:51 AM »
Can this explain why kids are less affected?
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2020, 11:58:36 AM »
Can this explain why kids are less affected?

The few instances that I heard of people still testing positive long after symptoms were over, were young men. I wonder if that is connected

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #83 on: April 19, 2020, 12:19:09 PM »
Very preliminary theory and I am not an MD. 

1.  COVID-19 "utilizes ACE-2 as a cellular entry receptor" by binding to it.
Quote taken from https://www.rndsystems.com/resources/articles/ace-2-sars-receptor-identified

2.  "It is mainly expressed in vascular endothelial cells, the renal tubular epithelium, and in Leydig cells in the testes.15,16 PCR analysis revealed that ACE-2 is also expressed in the lung, kidney, and gastrointestinal tract, tissues shown to harbor SARS-CoV."
Quote taken from https://www.rndsystems.com/resources/articles/ace-2-sars-receptor-identified

3.  "The results indicate that ACE2 highly expresses in renal tubular cells, Leydig cells and cells in seminiferous ducts in testis. Therefore, virus might directly bind to such ACE2 positive cells and damage the kidney and testicular tissue of patients."
Quote from https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339243337_ACE2_Expression_in_Kidney_and_Testis_May_Cause_Kidney_and_Testis_Damage_After_2019-nCoV_Infection

4.  "The seminiferous tubules are the site of the germination, maturation, and transportation of the sperm cells within the male testes."
quote from https://www.innerbody.com/anatomy/male-reproductive/seminiferous-tubules

This has, obviously, larger implications if true.
Now I understand why nursing homes are an “optimal breeding ground” for the virus ;)
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #84 on: April 19, 2020, 12:35:30 PM »
But can they infect the female?
I haven't put much time into researching this.  Once I read that the male organ has ACE-2 receptors, I started looking into articles to answer that question.  I got as far as the sequence above.  It seems logical, but I haven't seen any studies or even hints to that yet. 

Can this explain why kids are less affected?
Interesting, but remember, this is not the main way of transmission.
Now I understand why nursing homes are an “optimal breeding ground” for the virus ;)
Hah! Same as above.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #85 on: April 19, 2020, 12:38:42 PM »
Hah! Same as above.

No, I was serious. I’m not going to post a link but GIYF
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #86 on: April 19, 2020, 01:20:46 PM »
No, I was serious. I’m not going to post a link but GIYF
Please. One main article that claims numbers which are less than 5% of involved residents and that doesn't even fall into the category of intimacy about which we are talking.  Cute possibility, but far from reality of a main transmission variable.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #89 on: April 19, 2020, 07:49:35 PM »
The Sad Reason For Gulfstream Charter Flights To Israel


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The Sad Reason For Gulfstream Charter Flights To Israel
APRIL 19, 2020 BY BEN (LUCKY) 0
TRAVEL
We’re seeing all kinds of exceptional flights being operated at the moment, in light of circumstances. However, this has to be one of the more somber reasons for a charter flight…

Let me start by saying that I’m kind of piecing together the details of this best I can, based on a tip from a reader, who asked to remain anonymous.

In this post:
Gulfstream flying from East Farmdale to Tel Aviv
Why is this flight operating?
How much do charter flights cost?
Bottom line
Gulfstream flying from East Farmdale to Tel Aviv
Talon Air is a private jet charter company, and in the past several weeks they’ve operated at least one weekly flight as follows:

From Republic Airport in East Farmingdale, New York, to Tel Aviv, Israel
From Tel Aviv, Israel, to Marseille, France
From Marseille, France, to East Farmingdale, New York

They’ve been using a Gulfstream for these flights — the plane flies from New York to Tel Aviv, stops for a couple of hours, and then continues to Marseille. Then the plane spends the night there, before returning to New York the following day.

At a minimum, this “trip” has operated on April 5, April 12, and now a flight is in the air as I write this, with the flight number Talon Air 967 (TFF967).

Why is this flight operating?
It would appear that these charter flights are transporting the deceased to Israel. Many Jews consider it an honor to be buried in Israel. Generally remains would be shipped on United Airlines, as they continue to fly from Newark to Tel Aviv.


However, as of March 25, 2020, United Airlines suspended all casketed funeral shipments through their “TrustUA” program. Therefore charter flights are being organized in order to transport those who have passed.

A chartered plane for Niftarim is leaving for Eretz Yisroel on Sunday. Contact TLS for details.

— The Lakewood Scoop (@LakewoodScoop) April 17, 2020

My understanding is that the plane refuels and then continues to Marseille so the crew can spend the night there. Israel isn’t allowing in foreigners at the moment. I believe airline crews are excluded, though perhaps charter crews aren’t included among those.

How much do charter flights cost?
I respect and applaud those who are willing to spend the money to bury their loves ones in a way that they find appropriate. For those wondering, I do imagine this is quite expensive. Based on doing some Googling, a Gulfstream charter usually costs over $8,000 per hour.

The plane is flying roundtrip to Israel, so it’s flying for well over 20 hours. Based on that, I would guess that one of these charters must cost somewhere around $150,000 to $200,000.

Furthermore, Gulfstream aircraft have pretty small cargo holds, so I wonder about the overall capacity between the cargo hol dand the cabin. I’m not sure how many ways that charter cost is being split, but this can’t be cheap, because the capacity can’t be high.

Bottom line
Talon Air is operating charter flights from Republic Airport to Israel at least once a week, with a stop in Marseille on the way back, where the plane spends one night. With United having suspended casketed funeral shipments, this seems to be the only way for many to bury their loved ones the way they want.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #93 on: April 20, 2020, 08:50:32 AM »
« Last Edit: April 20, 2020, 10:48:23 AM by Yehudaa »

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #94 on: April 20, 2020, 05:31:21 PM »

Where did the airlines park their airplanes? // WOW!!!


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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #96 on: April 21, 2020, 09:32:57 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?

Fascinating. I think Hatzalah/ Bikur Cholim in Lakewood has actually been doing a lot of this

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #97 on: April 21, 2020, 10:02:10 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?

Fascinating. I think Hatzalah/ Bikur Cholim in Lakewood has actually been doing a lot of this

Definitely lends credence to the lab created theory. If I were creating a virus I would design it so victims are totally unaware they are critical until they are about to drop and this seems to fit the bill.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #98 on: April 21, 2020, 10:02:53 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?

Fascinating. I think Hatzalah/ Bikur Cholim in Lakewood has actually been doing a lot of this
Every hatzolah has been using oximeters.

Even DDF has been using them.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2020, 10:08:04 AM »
Definitely lends credence to the lab created theory. If I were creating a virus I would design it so victims are totally unaware they are critical until they are about to drop and this seems to fit the bill.
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