Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition

[Dan]

We can’t ignore the fact that New Zealand did it

Plenty of countries flattened it, the US is failing miserably. Stating it's inevitable when a vaccine is around the corner is idiocy.

[Lurker]

We can’t ignore the fact that New Zealand did it

In what way would you compare New Zealand to the US? Population? Population density? Borders? Culture?

[S209]

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiL2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRoZW1hcmtlci5jb20vbmV3cy9oZWFsdGgvMS44OTcxNDk50gEzaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhlbWFya2VyLmNvbS9hbXAvbmV3cy9oZWFsdGgvMS44OTcxNDk5?hl=he&gl=IL&ceid=IL%3Ahe

Another professional stating that eradicating COVID-19 isn't practical.

Yet most countries who’ve encountered it have by now managed to keep it completely at bay. The US is literally doing the worst of any country by leaps and bounds by every metric imaginable.

[S209]

Yup. As long as that was the argument (slow the spread, flatten the curve) it was plausible and garnered compliance. How unfortunate it is that the narrative changed.

Who’s narrative? Who’s argument? What changed? It still applies. It’s always best to delay getting sick until as late as possibl to prevent being a guinea pig, even if it’s inevitable. And it very much *isn’t* inevitable, as nearly every other country has shown us, especially with multiple vaccines heading our way at lightning speed.

[ExGingi]

Plenty of countries flattened it, the US is failing miserably. Stating it's inevitable when a vaccine is around the corner is idiocy.

https://youtu.be/_CXz3EleSXA?t=100

And what good is a vaccine if antibodies are no good?

[S209]

https://youtu.be/_CXz3EleSXA?t=100

And what good is a vaccine if antibodies are no good?

Again. Who is still claiming antibodies are no good? Some random Israeli minister? I’m pretty sure he isn’t on DDF so you must be fregging on someone else. Pray tell, who is that? I’ve yet to see it on these forums so I’d love if you could point them out so I could join you in your questioning their wisdom.

[S209]

https://youtu.be/_CXz3EleSXA?t=100

And what good is a vaccine if antibodies are no good?

What good are antibodies if a chicken doesn’t skate?

[Dan]

https://youtu.be/_CXz3EleSXA?t=100

And what good is a vaccine if antibodies are no good?

1. Nobody said that.
2. A vaccine can have other avenues of attack.

[Lurker]

And what good is a vaccine if antibodies are no good?

Who says antibodies aren't good? We just don't know how long they last. You know what other vaccine doesn't last? The flu shot. If you get a Covid shot once a year, and that immunity is enough to keep the spread very low, that's a somewhat realistic goal. As time goes on, the vaccine will get better and treatment protocols for those who do get it will be better, making this just another sickness we learn to live with, IY"H. We're not there yet, but it seems like we're well on our way.

[ExGingi]

1. Nobody said that.
2. A vaccine can have other avenues of attack.

כֹּחִי וְעֹצֶם יָדִי עָשָׂה לִי אֶת הַחַיִל הַזֶּה

[Afrages6]

In what way would you compare New Zealand to the US? Population? Population density? Borders? Culture?

What is your issue with me? The article was talking about Israel, they could have done the same as New Zealand had they not been so arrogant and acted with haste to reopen. Instead they are the rare country that locked down for three months and now has a raging epidemic.

[Lurker]

What is your issue with me? The article was talking about Israel, they could have done the same as New Zealand had they not been so arrogant and acted with haste to reopen. Instead they are the rare country that locked down for three months and now has a raging epidemic.

No issue with you at all. @ExGingi commented on the article that there's another professional who says we cannot eradicate Covid. I'm pretty sure he was extrapolating that opinion to the world, and specifically to the US, and I assumed you were responding in kind. The comparison is definitely more fitting with Israel.

[srap]

https://youtu.be/_CXz3EleSXA?t=100

And what good is a vaccine if antibodies are no good?

Was this youtube suppose to be something about antibodies or vaccines?

[ExGingi]

In what way would you compare New Zealand to the US? Population? Population density? Borders? Culture?

Israel is a lot more comparable to the US than to NZ.

[ExGingi]

Was this youtube suppose to be something about antibodies or vaccines?

About a vaccine being around the corner (specifically at that time stamp 1:40).

[Lurker]

Israel is a lot more comparable to the US than to NZ.

Make the argument.

[ExGingi]

Make the argument.

Urban population density, and very possibly culturally, despite linguistic difference.

[Lurker]

Urban population density, and very possibly culturally, despite linguistic difference.

Population size? One airport in the entire country? Maybe comparable to NJ, if you could lock down the borders with other states, but the US? I don't see how you make that comparison.

[ExGingi]

What is your issue with me? The article was talking about Israel, they could have done the same as New Zealand had they not been so arrogant and acted with haste to reopen. Instead they are the rare country that locked down for three months and now has a raging epidemic.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-06/australia-s-most-populous-states-to-close-shared-border?srnd=premium

Australia having similar problem.

And Australia's borders are closed tighter than US or Israeli borders (Australians need to get permission to fly overseas).

[cholent]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/business/covid-economy-parents-kids-career-homeschooling.html