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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #560 on: August 13, 2020, 11:23:46 AM »
There is a very good case to be made about NY/NJ's failures and mismanagement with regards to the virus, but comparing their fatality rates to states that got hit months later does a disservice to those arguments.
The argument is 100% on point. It was around in europe for months, there was no reason that ny/nj didn't know how to handle it. Both governors were to arrogant to ask for help and too busy blaming trump to actually take any accountability. Not a single state looked at NY and said let's follow them they got a great handle on this.

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« Reply #561 on: August 13, 2020, 11:29:02 AM »
The argument is 100% on point. It was around in europe for months, there was no reason that ny/nj didn't know how to handle it. Both governors were to arrogant to ask for help and too busy blaming trump to actually take any accountability. Not a single state looked at NY and said let's follow them they got a great handle on this.

First, the article compares NY/NJ to other states, not Europe. Second, how many months was it in Europe before it got to NY/NJ? Third, how was the fatality rate in Europe during that time in comparison to NY/NJ?

Again, "there is a very good case to be made about NY/NJ's failures and mismanagement." Comparing fatality rates from March through May against states that spiked in June through August doesn't help that argument. The science and treatments are lightyears ahead of where they were back then.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #562 on: August 13, 2020, 11:34:15 AM »
First, the article compares NY/NJ to other states, not Europe. Second, how many months was it in Europe before it got to NY/NJ? Third, how was the fatality rate in Europe during that time in comparison to NY/NJ?

Again, "there is a very good case to be made about NY/NJ's failures and mismanagement." Comparing fatality rates from March through May against states that spiked in June through August doesn't help that argument. The science and treatments are lightyears ahead of where they were back then.
Okay, but what about other states which had it then such as CA?
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« Reply #563 on: August 13, 2020, 11:42:36 AM »
Okay, but what about other states which had it then such as CA?

There are a number of differences between CA and NY/NJ, the most important being that they had different strains of the virus. The strain that hit California is thought to be less fatal. CA also closed everything very early and had much less spread than NY/NJ, so their hospitals never saw the same pressure. Another difference, and IMO a very big one, is weather. If the theory about the correlation of weather and indoor spread is correct, then the circumstances on the ground in CA are not remotely comparable to NY/NJ in March and April, and therefore the reactions cannot be compared.

Once again: NY screwed up. NJ screwed up. No debate. But you will have a hard time making a fair comparison of situations with a multitude of differing variables.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #564 on: August 13, 2020, 03:03:57 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/media/amc-reopening-ticket-prices/index.html

AMC is reopening its theaters next week with 15-cent tickets
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« Reply #565 on: August 13, 2020, 03:50:57 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-08-13-20-intl/h_e18c953da1c7e03b79f3e2470cf32005

Brilliant or stupid, depending on how you look at it. By making this a Biden vs Trump issue, they can make Trump look very bad, but also virtually guarantee that there will be no mask mandate, to the detriment of our collective health.
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« Reply #566 on: August 13, 2020, 07:38:36 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-08-13-20-intl/h_e18c953da1c7e03b79f3e2470cf32005

Brilliant or stupid, depending on how you look at it. By making this a Biden vs Trump issue, they can make Trump look very bad, but also virtually guarantee that there will be no mask mandate, to the detriment of our collective health.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hits-biden-national-mask-mandate
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #567 on: August 13, 2020, 11:50:39 PM »
Is the treatment worse than the illness among younger age groups?
https://nypost.com/2020/08/13/1-in-4-young-adults-in-the-us-contemplated-suicide-during-pandemic/
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #577 on: August 21, 2020, 09:54:14 AM »
In the not good news category:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-pauses-emergency-authorization-blood-plasma-coronavirus-treatment-report

The political interference into this pandemic is unconscionable. It started with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine which still today we do not know the truth about.

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