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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #640 on: September 02, 2020, 11:15:16 AM »
I know for a fact that someone in the family of hugely influential person in town who's an anti vaxxer had a severe case of Covid in April (hatzolah was needed multiple times). Hope it's not the same person who's saying these things.
+1 on this, but perhaps someone else (not likely)

About the individual I am referring to, I was told that he is very concerned about the current uptick and believes it is a serious issue. Likely largely for fear of a shutdown as well. He also had the virus in March and therefore had a minyan when they were banned, but did not allow anyone who wasn’t previously infected to daven with him
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #641 on: September 02, 2020, 12:10:45 PM »
I know for a fact that someone in the family of hugely influential person in town who's an anti vaxxer had a severe case of Covid in April (hatzolah was needed multiple times). Hope it's not the same person who's saying these things.
He is convinced that the others would have survived as he did had the doctors and hospitals not killed them...

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #642 on: September 02, 2020, 12:13:10 PM »
He is convinced that the others would have survived as he did had the doctors and hospitals not killed them...
Just this statement alone is ridiculous on the face of it. If he needed Hatzolah multiple times then it totally makes sense that some will succumb. Just that they needed to be hospitalized and he did not demonstrates this.
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Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #643 on: September 02, 2020, 12:13:11 PM »
He is convinced that the others would have survived as he did had the doctors and hospitals not killed them...
Not everyone is privileged enough to have doctors and hatzolah waiting on them hand and foot at their home.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #644 on: September 02, 2020, 12:24:23 PM »
+1 on this, but perhaps someone else (not likely)

About the individual I am referring to, I was told that he is very concerned about the current uptick and believes it is a serious issue. Likely largely for fear of a shutdown as well. He also had the virus in March and therefore had a minyan when they were banned, but did not allow anyone who wasn’t previously infected to daven with him
He is convinced that the others would have survived as he did had the doctors and hospitals not killed them...
Apparently I’m wrong, and he does indeed feel that way. @Yard sale you have heard him say this directly?
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #645 on: September 02, 2020, 12:52:08 PM »
Just this statement alone is ridiculous on the face of it. If he needed Hatzolah multiple times then it totally makes sense that some will succumb. Just that they needed to be hospitalized and he did not demonstrates this.
I hope he's not basing this on his personal experience.

He's in a very unique and privileged position which affords him the ability to have hatzolah and doctors at his beck and call. 

The hospitals were obviously overwhelmed (e.g. R' Jacobs was transferred back home because of level of care), however your average Chaim Yankel doesn't have the ability to pick up the phone and call a doctor to come down to treat him.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #646 on: September 02, 2020, 01:36:00 PM »
Apparently I’m wrong, and he does indeed feel that way. @Yard sale you have heard him say this directly?
No I did not. Askanim who supposedly spoke to him. Ask him if you want to verify his Shita.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #647 on: September 02, 2020, 08:40:23 PM »
I hope he's not basing this on his personal experience.

He's in a very unique and privileged position which affords him the ability to have hatzolah and doctors at his beck and call. 

The hospitals were obviously overwhelmed (e.g. R' Jacobs was transferred back home because of level of care), however your average Chaim Yankel doesn't have the ability to pick up the phone and call a doctor to come down to treat him.
Also, the fact that he did not die (yet had a brush) does not mean nobody will die. Even if he had it as bad as anyone else. That’s lunacy.

Here’s another proof: He wasn’t treated with hydroxychloroquine, yet survived. Others were treated with HCQ, and died. Therefore, HCQ kills people.

That’s actually the literal inverse logic people are using to “prove” HCQ woks.

Disclaimer: I do not profess to know whether it works or not, I’m just amazed at people’s logical pretzels.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #648 on: September 04, 2020, 01:05:22 AM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/03/south-dakota-covid-19-sturgis-rally-state-fair-kristi-noem/5709042002/
We truly have a messed up media and they need to be be shut down. 100s of thousands of new cases from blm riots and not a word. 300 cases in a red state from a motor cycle really and its a surge, what a sick twisted world.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #649 on: September 04, 2020, 01:32:53 PM »
100s of thousands of new cases from blm riots


It makes sense that it should be, but where did you get such numbers from?
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #650 on: September 04, 2020, 02:27:06 PM »
It makes sense that it should be, but where did you get such numbers from?
Over the half the states in the US had a surge afterwards.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #651 on: September 04, 2020, 02:33:26 PM »
Over the half the states in the US had a surge afterwards.
Do you have any data connecting it to the protests or even that they happened in the same places as the protests?
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #652 on: September 04, 2020, 03:18:57 PM »
Do you have any data connecting it to the protests or even that they happened in the same places as the protests?
Some kind of a joke? Data to prove that millions were out on the streets and then subsequently there were surges all over the country?

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #653 on: September 04, 2020, 03:38:37 PM »
Some kind of a joke? Data to prove that millions were out on the streets and then subsequently there were surges all over the country?
Got stuck on the first half of the question?

FTR, I fully agree that it is a likely contributor. I was just wondering if there is any clear data. It seems like not. Also not sure where you got the number itself from.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #655 on: September 05, 2020, 11:52:27 PM »
Got stuck on the first half of the question?

FTR, I fully agree that it is a likely contributor. I was just wondering if there is any clear data. It seems like not. Also not sure where you got the number itself from.
It’s not because our brilliant  contact tracers were told not to ask anyone if they were at protests

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #657 on: September 06, 2020, 05:01:02 PM »
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #658 on: September 07, 2020, 10:15:01 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/09/06/family-letters-1918-flu-coronavirus-pandemic/

Do you think in 100 years from now they won't remember much about 2020?

Will it be different this time because of the internet? Or because we're not in middle of WWI?
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