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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #761 on: October 15, 2020, 09:34:32 AM »
This is a long Twitter thread with a very interesting perspective
You need to go into Twitter to see The thread

https://twitter.com/DYShor/status/1316596025692426240?s=20
https://twitter.com/DYShor/status/1316595937532424198?s=20

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #762 on: October 15, 2020, 10:58:32 AM »
This is a long Twitter thread with a very interesting perspective
You need to go into Twitter to see The thread

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316595937532424198.html


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We Orthodox Jews in NYC have been all the rage for a few weeks now, and I gather most people outside the community have no idea what’s really transpiring here, so allow me to try to clarify some stuff for you all.
The Jewish community here is very big, and consists of hundreds of congregations. Each can be different. Obviously I can’t give an accounting for all, but I’ll try to give a general explainer on the broad happenings with COVID and the restrictions impacting religious life.
As most know, in March & April the orthodox Jewish community in the Tri-State area suffered greatly from COVID. Many lives were lost. (As an aside, I won’t use the derogatory and meaningless “ultra” label when describing Orthodox Jews).
The situation was so serious, that many Jewish institutions went into lockdown before the city or state mandated it. The emergency was obvious. Sirens were blaring hourly — if not more frequently, & at some point everyone had a neighbor or tow that was hospitalized due to COVID.
Yes, as with every community/society, there were those that were reckless and ignored all warnings. But I’m not here to discuss the crazies. I’m here to give you a picture of the overwhelming majority of sane citizens, and they took the pandemic very seriously.
So seriously, that synagogues and schools were closed. That didn’t happen since the Holocaust, but it did happen in March-April of 2020, and it happened voluntarily.
While religious services and traditional schooling are so sacred, life was even more sacred. The Torah treasures life more than everything.
By the time June came around, thankfully the situation was far far better. People weren’t getting sick, and normalcy was slowly returning.

Many congregations had an infection rate higher than 50% (some closer to 70%), which also made the spread far less likely now.
New York State didn’t allow for summer camps to open, but most kids went to camp nonetheless. Camps relocated to other states, and the sort. Upstate bungalow colonies were open, community life resumed, but the pandemic didn’t restart. In fact, there were no new cases.
July and August saw lots of travel. New Yorkers were going out of state, and many folks from stateside or overseas came to New York. Slowly new cases were appearing. That was predictable, and if you recall “a second wave” was expected for months.
In September the uptick became noticeable. Urgent-care centers were again full with folks getting tested.

But this “wave” didn’t resemble March-April whatsoever. Sirens were hardly heard, and few are hospitalized.
That isn’t necessarily the case in other regions/states or countries. But it is the case in the orthodox sections of New York City.
I can think of a few possible factors:

•Most got the virus the first time around

•We now know much more about treatments.

•Unlike March, testing is widely available, so treatment can start early.

•Unlike March, masks are available, and people are more protected
Regardless, the situation isn’t anywhere near what it was in March-April, so naturally people don’t see the need for another lockdown. They don’t want their lives disrupted — when the rationale isn’t there.
That’s especially true when you consider the fact that they’re being singled out. Unlike the first time around, these restrictions are being tailored for specific communities.

When New York State reopened, it happened by ‘region’, but now they’ve changed the rules of the game.
Then there’s the presentation of the new restrictions. Cuomo lied to the Jewish leaders/Rabbis. He got them to agree on something reasonable, only to hours-later announce something very radical. It was a bait and switch. nytimes.com/2020/10/12/nyr…
How a Feud Between Cuomo and de Blasio Led to a Chaotic Virus Crackdown
The mayor pushed out a plan, only to have the governor override him, causing unnecessary confusion for thousands of business owners and school parents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/nyregion/cuomo-coronavirus-orthodox-shutdown.amp.html
EXCLUSIVE FULL RECORDING: Jewish Leaders Say They Were 'Stabbed in the Back' by Cuomo | Hamodia.com
Hamodia has exclusively obtained a full recording of a conference call New York Gov. Andrew Cumo had with Jewish leaders last Tuesday, in which he said he would limit houses of worship to 50% occupanc…
https://hamodia.com/2020/10/12/exclusive-recording-jewish-leaders-say-stabbed-back-cuomo/
In fact, Cuomo’s first proclamation on the uptick of cases came on the high holiday of Yom Kipur. His disregard for the community he was supposedly talking to and caring for — could not be any clearer.
While it’s true that our communities experienced an uptick in cases, it’s not out of control, and it won’t get out of control for the factors mentioned above. We may have been the first to have such high infection rates, but we’ll also be the first to have them lowered once more.
The numbers are already lower. The virus caught us again by surprise, just as it caught every other community/region be surprise. But now it’s under control. Obviously we must remain vigilant and cautious, but there’s no reason for panic and lockdowns.
It’s therefore no wonder that Orthodox Jews don’t want to have their religious liberties taken away — when life and its liberties can resume and survive.
Orthodox Jews also don’t want to be living in a ghetto again, where different rules are tailored for their community. You just need to listen to Cuomo & De Blasio, to hear how their color-coded neighborhoods are all about the Jews. Never again is never again.
Cuomo & De Blasio weren’t there for us when we were being beaten and slaughtered in the streets and synagogues of New York (late 2019-early 2020), but now they claim to care. The community’s reaction is “No thanks”.
Then they said they didn’t have the personnel to protect us. Somehow now they have all the personnel necessary to shutter our synagogues and schools.

We are in a dire situation, but not as a result of a health risk, rather as a result of the trampling of our god-given liberties.
To conclude: We care for life more than Cuomo does. Much more. He’s responsible for the lost lives of thousands. But we also care for our liberties — especially our religious liberties. And Orthodox Jews aren’t about to give Cuomo control over the well-being. Period.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #767 on: October 15, 2020, 10:54:41 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-15/mexican-billionaire-with-covid-says-we-ll-all-get-it-eventually?srnd=premium
Alternative headline:

“65 year old critic of precautionary measures who refuses to wear a mask contracts coronavirus”
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #769 on: October 16, 2020, 03:19:40 PM »
Alternative headline:

“65 year old critic of precautionary measures who refuses to wear a mask contracts coronavirus”

Alternative sub heading:

"Even Jewish leaders of certain Chassidic sects who were very careful and strict with all precautions and mask wearing contracted coronavirus".
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #771 on: October 18, 2020, 05:43:16 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-packaging-idUSKBN2720MD

China once again proving to outpace the US research community
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #772 on: October 18, 2020, 05:46:17 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-packaging-idUSKBN2720MD

China once again proving to outpace the US research community

This is China flexing that they have the most minute details of this under control while the rest of the world needs to fear packaging on frozen food.

Basically propaganda. If COVID was getting around on food packaging we’d have a much bigger issue on our hands (no pun intended).
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #774 on: October 21, 2020, 06:39:13 PM »
https://www.dw.com/en/dogs-detect-coronavirus-fast-and-reliably-why-not-use-them-everywhere/a-55340369

Wish this could be implemented. Imagine no more masks in shuls, weddings without capacity limits, just place a dog at the entrance to screen attendees. It will never be implemented because it's too easy.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #775 on: October 21, 2020, 06:57:24 PM »
https://www.dw.com/en/dogs-detect-coronavirus-fast-and-reliably-why-not-use-them-everywhere/a-55340369

Wish this could be implemented. Imagine no more masks in shuls, weddings without capacity limits, just place a dog at the entrance to screen attendees. It will never be implemented because it's too easy.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #776 on: October 21, 2020, 06:58:32 PM »
The dogs themselves would lead to lower attendance at weddings :)

Even if they couldn't detect covid
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #779 on: October 21, 2020, 07:45:39 PM »
https://www.dw.com/en/dogs-detect-coronavirus-fast-and-reliably-why-not-use-them-everywhere/a-55340369

Wish this could be implemented. Imagine no more masks in shuls, weddings without capacity limits, just place a dog at the entrance to screen attendees. It will never be implemented because it's too easy.

Is that a #SecondWave or a repost?

This could be a major game-changer. My only question is what happens to the dog's sense of smell if it gets COVID-19.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/24/close-to-100-accuracy-airport-enlists-sniffer-dogs-to-test-for-covid-19

Will any country reopen using this technology?

https://people.com/pets/finland-to-use-coronavirus-sniffing-dogs-at-helsinki-airport/
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