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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2020, 12:15:45 PM »
Hospitals are @SS backwards. That's why. Hospitals only deal with approved vendors who rip them off. That's the rule.
Are there regulatory requirements (such as FDA approval) for these masks etc?
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2020, 12:18:26 PM »
Hospitals are @SS backwards. That's why. Hospitals only deal with approved vendors who rip them off. That's the rule.

At some point common sense should kick in and they should do whatever they have to to protect their workforce.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2020, 12:21:06 PM »
Hospitals are @SS backwards. That's why. Hospitals only deal with approved vendors who rip them off. That's the rule.
On an unrelated note, @SS probably gets tagged into a lot of random threads

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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2020, 12:22:55 PM »
On an unrelated note, @SS probably gets tagged into a lot of random threads
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2020, 12:25:32 PM »
Hospitals are @SS backwards. That's why. Hospitals only deal with approved vendors who rip them off. That's the rule.
There is liability issues involved. I believe the government waived them for this crisis.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2020, 01:13:59 PM »
WHy would someone buy them on amazon to donate? The hopitals can't find Amazon?
From what I'm told, they wont sell to hospitals because they're afraid of getting reported for price gauging.

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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2020, 01:39:49 PM »
There is liability issues involved. I believe the government waived them for this crisis.
My bil works in import-export. He told me that they have these construction grade masks that get imported by the hundreds of thousands all the time, with no regulatory approvals required whatsoever.

Last week, they tried getting a shipment through, but the FDA stopped them. They said that since health care workers have started using them for lack of better options, they now fall under FDA regulatory approval. Their hands were tied, and the inspection/verification process could take weeks to months at a minimum. For the last full week they have been working around the clock hand in hand with a contact at the FDA to try to find a loophole so they can get them through already.

Unnecessary extra regulation can cause unnecessary deaths.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2020, 01:49:11 PM »
Unnecessary extra regulation can cause unnecessary deaths.
The flip side is that so will shoddy products if they are used to protect medical staff.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2020, 01:50:11 PM »
There is liability issues involved. I believe the government waived them for this crisis.

They did assume some of the liability but not all. Nor should they.

Unnecessary extra regulation can cause unnecessary deaths.
The flip side is that so will shoddy products if they are used to protect medical staff.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2020, 02:08:03 PM »
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2020, 02:12:20 PM »
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https://twitter.com/PMatzko/status/1242807843939659776
This is why in this situation they do need to cut the red tape. In months, if we can react properly, with Hashem’s help, they hopefully will be unnecessary. Currently, they’re urgently needed. They need to bend the rules a lot.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2020, 02:22:22 PM »
This is why in this situation they do need to cut the red tape. In months, if we can react properly, with Hashem’s help, they hopefully will be unnecessary. Currently, they’re urgently needed. They need to bend the rules a lot.
They are. They do still need to make sure they meet standards though.
Also see the video I linked to from Rich Roberts
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2020, 02:55:28 PM »
They are. They do still need to make sure they meet standards though.
Also see the video I linked to from Rich Roberts
Where? Don’t see a link on this thread
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #75 on: March 25, 2020, 08:33:07 PM »
Masks are used for many different things. Surgical masks are mainly to protect the patient.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2020, 10:16:15 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/massive-stockpile-39-million-n95-215814360.html

Hmm...

So someone just forgot about 39 million masks in their basement or something?

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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #77 on: March 26, 2020, 10:22:42 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/massive-stockpile-39-million-n95-215814360.html

Hmm...

So someone just forgot about 39 million masks in their basement or something?
How much do these usually sell for in bulk?


Seems to be about .60 so they are selling it for 8x the normal price for a cool profit of $170,000,000. Get the AG after them.
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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #78 on: March 26, 2020, 11:17:48 PM »
How much do these usually sell for in bulk?


Seems to be about .60 so they are selling it for 8x the normal price for a cool profit of $170,000,000. Get the AG after them.
Pretty sure my purchaser told me we used to pay $1.50 per box of 50. Crazy how people take advantage of situations that literally ends up killing people.

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Re: PSA - Stop Hoarding Masks
« Reply #79 on: March 26, 2020, 11:22:44 PM »
Pretty sure my purchaser told me we used to pay $1.50 per box of 50. Crazy how people take advantage of situations that literally ends up killing people.

For N95 masks? In what quantities?
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