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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #640 on: December 22, 2020, 08:09:26 PM »
Not so simple. Many will feel pressure to back the President.
Even AOC wasn’t happy about the bill

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #641 on: December 22, 2020, 08:10:26 PM »
Even AOC wasn’t happy about the bill

Even? If she had her way half the bill would be axed and the other half would be multiplied by 10.
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #642 on: December 22, 2020, 08:18:44 PM »
Not so simple. Many will feel pressure to back the President.
That would take us back to the fun and games of the last 6 months

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #643 on: December 22, 2020, 08:27:52 PM »
What's another 100 billion to the deficit?  :)
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #644 on: December 22, 2020, 08:27:57 PM »
The bill was voted in with veto-proof majority, wasn't it?
Yes, they still need to vote again to override the veto which the Republicans may not do.
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #645 on: December 22, 2020, 08:33:25 PM »
Everyone here is missing the boat.

In all likelihood, Congress will not be able to override the veto even if support remains behind the bill. The bill has not been delivered yet to Trump, and once it gets to him, Trump can pocket veto the bill for 10 days before it would take effect, but by then, this congress would be dissolved and the entire process would have to restart.

In short, the president can ignore the bill. Generally, a bill that is ignored will automatically become law after 10 days. In this case, however, 10 days would be after January 3, and this congress -along with any unsigned bills - would be terminated. In order for congress to vote on a veto override, the president would first have to veto it. He won't veto outright, as the timing is prime for a successful pocket veto.

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #646 on: December 22, 2020, 08:35:14 PM »
Everyone here is missing the boat.

In all likelihood, Congress will not be able to override the veto even if support remains behind the bill. The bill has not been delivered yet to Trump, and once it gets to him, Trump can pocket veto the bill for 10 days before it would take effect, but by then, this congress would be dissolved and the entire process would have to restart.

In short, the president can ignore the bill. Generally, a bill that is ignored will automatically become law after 10 days. In this case, however, 10 days would be after January 3, and this congress -along with any unsigned bills - would be terminated. In order for congress to vote on a veto override, the president would first have to veto it. He won't veto outright, as the timing is prime for a successful pocket veto.


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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #647 on: December 22, 2020, 08:36:23 PM »
Great thread on this from Fox's Chad Pergram

https://threader.app/thread/1341550658332340225

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #648 on: December 22, 2020, 08:37:28 PM »
Gornisht mit nisht.
They'll override the veto and he'll sing from the rooftops that he wanted to help the American people, and Congress wasn't on board.
If he would've gone with 1200, he could have gotten traction- maybe. 2000 is him making a fuss with the knowledge that it won't pass.

Yup, foolish move. If they call his bluff he goes down in the books as an obstructionist who blocked funding Americans needed. Then come January 20th the Biden administration will take credit for a “bigger and better” stimulus bill.
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #650 on: December 22, 2020, 08:40:47 PM »
A good idea that the media shouldn't be busy with his pardons

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #652 on: December 22, 2020, 08:47:28 PM »
https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1341557535732604935?s=21
Huh? Who does she think she's fooling?

Anyways, I agree to $2,000 per person, too. But let's cut out half the bill first.

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #653 on: December 22, 2020, 08:47:55 PM »
https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1341557535732604935?s=21

Nice move calling his bluff, but odds are 0% house and senate will vote on an identical bill with the only changes being date corrections and increasing the amounts on the stimulus-related provisions. It’ll be another opportunity to pork it up some more and some more tussling for D interests vs R interests.
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #654 on: December 22, 2020, 08:48:18 PM »
Everyone here is missing the boat.

In all likelihood, Congress will not be able to override the veto even if support remains behind the bill. The bill has not been delivered yet to Trump, and once it gets to him, Trump can pocket veto the bill for 10 days before it would take effect, but by then, this congress would be dissolved and the entire process would have to restart.

In short, the president can ignore the bill. Generally, a bill that is ignored will automatically become law after 10 days. In this case, however, 10 days would be after January 3, and this congress -along with any unsigned bills - would be terminated. In order for congress to vote on a veto override, the president would first have to veto it. He won't veto outright, as the timing is prime for a successful pocket veto.
Great thread on this from Fox's Chad Pergram

https://threader.app/thread/1341550658332340225
@Dan your DDMS post says that congress can override. I believe that is wrong.

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #655 on: December 22, 2020, 08:48:33 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #656 on: December 22, 2020, 09:00:00 PM »
WASHINGTON: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she's ready to pass Trump's demand to up the stimulus check amount to $2,000 this week by unanimous consent, which doesn't require a vote.
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #657 on: December 22, 2020, 09:03:42 PM »
WASHINGTON: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she's ready to pass Trump's demand to up the stimulus check amount to $2,000 this week by unanimous consent, which doesn't require a vote.

That would be super cool, win win win if it’s a real possibility.
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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #658 on: December 22, 2020, 09:06:35 PM »
If this bill fails apart, and people don't get more money, the Democrats will for sure win Georgia.
People are looking for the money now.

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Re: Coronavirus Stimulus Aid Package
« Reply #659 on: December 22, 2020, 10:03:22 PM »
If this bill fails apart, and people don't get more money, the Democrats will for sure win Georgia.
People are looking for the money now.
Trump is trying to paint it as democrat fault.
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