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You are eligible for the $600 weekly FPUC payment if you are on any sort of unemployment, including PUA and partial unemployment. This is available for claims dated 3/28/20-7/31/20. The federal supplement does not affect eligibility for Medicaid and CHIP. It does affect SNAP and TANF.

If you filed for UI more than a week after your layoff date, you are eligible for backpay.

The obligatory waiting week has been waived, so your claim will process with a date a week earlier than what you apply for, to account for the waiting week waiver.

NY
There is a streamlined application process so that all applicants complete the same form, regardless of which program they'll eventually be eligible for.
PUA:
Unemployment for the self-employed. Acceptable proof of income includes prior year tax returns, 1099, P&L, bank statements and more. You will most likely be approved for standard UI even if you're an independent contractor, if you had W2 employment within the last 18 months.
If you are assigned the minimum rate of $182 when it should be higher based on your income, complete this form, fax it in, then send it again via the message center (Subject1: "Benefit Rate and Monetary Determination" Subject2: "Some of my wages are missing or incorrect") so that they definitely got it. Your rate should be adjusted in less than a week. You are also entitled to get your updated rate on all prior weeks.
You are also eligible for PUA if you landed a job but where unable to start due to the pandemic. You need an employment offer that was then rescinded to prove this.
PUA is available for a total of 46 weeks from 02/02/20-12/31/20.
Partial UI:
You can apply for partial UI if you're working 3 days or less, and earning $504/weekly or less. The DOL deducts 25% of your base rate for every day that you work. (You receive 100% of your rate if you don't work at all, 75% if you work 1 day, 50% if you work 2 days, and 25% if you work 3 days).
PEUC:
For those on regular unemployment- you will receive an additional 13 weeks of benefits after you've exhausted your initial 26 weeks. This benefit is available through 12/31/20.
Extended Benefits:
For those on regular unemployment- you will receive an additional 20 weeks of benefits after you've exhausted your initial 26 weeks and your PEUC weeks. This makes for a total of 59 weeks that you can possible receive unemployment benefits. This benefit is available as long as the state's unemployment rate is high.
Requesting Backpay:
The NY DOL is using Docusign to allow claimants to file backpay. You should receive an email from the DOL with instructions. The email subject is "Action Required - NYS DOL Certification for Back Week Payments". This might end up in your spam folder, so be sure to check that as well.
If you don't receive this email or you don't want to wait, call the NY DOL and speak to an agent to certify for backpay over the phone.
It takes a little less than a week from when you complete backdated certifications until your claims are processed and funds are released.
$0 Benefit Determination:
Email @cgr for instructions on a fix for this issue

NJ
Apply here.
PUA:
Unemployment for the self-employed. Acceptable proof of income includes prior year tax returns, 1099, P&L, bank statements and more. You will most likely be approved for standard UI even if you're an independent contractor, if you had W2 employment within the last 18 months.
At this point it looks like claimants are still being given $231- the minimum PUA rate- regardless of prior income.
You are also eligible for PUA if you landed a job but where unable to start due to the pandemic. You need an employment offer that was then rescinded to prove this.
PUA is available for a total of 46 weeks from 02/02/20-12/31/20.
Partial UI:
You can apply for partial UI if your hours have been reduced by 20% or more. You'll be allowed to earn an additional 20% above your rate determination. Your earnings will then be deducted from your rate, and you'll receive the balance as your UI payment.
PEUC:
For those on regular unemployment- you will receive an additional 13 weeks of benefits after you've exhausted your initial 26 weeks. This benefit is available through 12/31/20.
Extended Benefits:
For those on regular unemployment- you will receive an additional 20 weeks of benefits after you've exhausted your initial 26 weeks and your PEUC weeks. This makes for a total of 59 weeks that you can possible receive unemployment benefits. This benefit is available as long as the state's unemployment rate is high.
Requesting Backpay:
You can request backpay if you are lucky enough to get through to an agent.

Here is a guide for NJ residents from the LRRC.

You can email @cgr at chaiplus1@gmail.com for help with any unemployment questions.

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1350 on: May 26, 2020, 12:41:41 PM »
NJ.
Someone I know (family of 5) just got a call from the foodstamps office that since they are getting $231 (PUA) + $600 (FPUC) which is calculated as unearned income, they are being disqualified from receiving any more foodstamps.
This may be a looming issue for a lot of people.

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1351 on: May 26, 2020, 12:43:40 PM »
NJ.
Someone I know (family of 5) just got a call from the foodstamps office that since they are getting $231 (PUA) + $600 (FPUC) which is calculated as unearned income, they are being disqualified from receiving any more foodstamps.
This may be a looming issue for a lot of people.

Itís an issue, but:
1. Itís still more $$ than food stamps, still means you canít rely on both.
2. If theyíre still collecting PUA after 7/31 they might be eligible for food stamps once the PFUC payments stop
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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1352 on: May 26, 2020, 12:58:06 PM »
Itís an issue, but:
1. Itís still more $$ than food stamps, still means you canít rely on both.
2. If theyíre still collecting PUA after 7/31 they might be eligible for food stamps once the PFUC payments stop
1 - It's a BIG issue.
A family could have been getting $1000 a week in earned income + $600 a month in foodstamps.
Now they are getting $831 in unemployment benefits a week and no foodstamps.
Big loss for a struggling family.
2 - True, but they need to take quite a loss until then and who knows if their job would be available then either?

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1353 on: May 26, 2020, 01:27:53 PM »
NJ.
Someone I know (family of 5) just got a call from the foodstamps office that since they are getting $231 (PUA) + $600 (FPUC) which is calculated as unearned income, they are being disqualified from receiving any more foodstamps.
This may be a looming issue for a lot of people.

I know of a few people on welfare (food stamps, cash assistance etc) who chose not to collect UI because of this although now that SNAP has released that they're counting all payments received as earned in the month received, it could be worth it to file a claim in the last week of July and certify for backpay for all weeks- it would mean losing benefits for one month only.

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1354 on: May 26, 2020, 01:49:34 PM »
Tried a few times already.
and the error is with the mothers maiden name?
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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1355 on: May 26, 2020, 02:01:06 PM »
1 - It's a BIG issue.
A family could have been getting $1000 a week in earned income + $600 a month in foodstamps.
Now they are getting $831 in unemployment benefits a week and no foodstamps.
Big loss for a struggling family.

If their only income is $831 from PUA/FPUC, then why arenít they eligible for SNAP? They were eligible when their income was $1000...
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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1356 on: May 26, 2020, 02:05:38 PM »
If their only income is $831 from PUA/FPUC, then why arenít they eligible for SNAP? They were eligible when their income was $1000...
NJ.
Someone I know (family of 5) just got a call from the foodstamps office that since they are getting $231 (PUA) + $600 (FPUC) which is calculated as unearned income, they are being disqualified from receiving any more foodstamps.
This may be a looming issue for a lot of people.

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1357 on: May 26, 2020, 02:09:53 PM »
If their only income is $831 from PUA/FPUC, then why arenít they eligible for SNAP? They were eligible when their income was $1000...
Unearned income is calculated differently - more stringently - than earned income.
(It's the same way by Earned Income Credit. Someone can earn $50,000 and be eligible for EIC but if he earns ~$3500 in unearned income he is completely disqualified even if he earns nothing else!)

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1358 on: May 26, 2020, 02:10:31 PM »
If their only income is $831 from PUA/FPUC, then why arenít they eligible for SNAP? They were eligible when their income was $1000...

Must be that their income was less than $831 before- unearned income isn't more weighted than earned income...
And btw if they got rejected for earning $831, I'm assuming it's just a couple because the more dependents the more allowable income.
And if it's just a couple they weren't getting $600 in SNAP...

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1359 on: May 26, 2020, 02:11:18 PM »
I know of a few people on welfare (food stamps, cash assistance etc) who chose not to collect UI because of this although now that SNAP has released that they're counting all payments received as earned in the month received, it could be worth it to file a claim in the last week of July and certify for backpay for all weeks- it would mean losing benefits for one month only.
Interesting. Thank you.
Is there any plan to fix this?
It's really unfair to low-income people.

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Re: Unemployment Help
« Reply #1360 on: May 26, 2020, 02:11:23 PM »
Unearned income is calculated differently - more stringently - than earned income.
(It's the same way by Earned Income Credit. Someone can earn $50,000 and be eligible for EIC but if he earns ~$3500 in unearned income he is completely disqualified even if he earns nothing else!)

In NY it's the same- earned vs unearned. Checking NJ now but it's a weird distinction that I haven't heard of before when it comes to programs.

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« Reply #1361 on: May 26, 2020, 02:12:31 PM »
Must be that their income was less than $831 before- unearned income isn't more weighted than earned income...
And btw if they got rejected for earning $831, I'm assuming it's just a couple because the more dependents the more allowable income.
And if it's just a couple they weren't getting $600 in SNAP...
Family of 5.

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« Reply #1362 on: May 26, 2020, 02:15:26 PM »
In NY it's the same- earned vs unearned. Checking NJ now but it's a weird distinction that I haven't heard of before when it comes to programs.

Just confirmed in NJ all income is the same- no distinction between earned and unearned.

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« Reply #1363 on: May 26, 2020, 02:16:54 PM »
In NY it's the same- earned vs unearned. Checking NJ now but it's a weird distinction that I haven't heard of before when it comes to programs.
In NY its not exactly the same...
When calculating eligibility its the same, but when calculating the income for the benefit amount there is a 20% deduction for earned income but not for unearnd income.
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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« Reply #1364 on: May 26, 2020, 02:17:03 PM »
Family of 5.

They must have been earning less than $831 when employed.
Check out this link: https://www.nj.gov/humanservices/njsnap/about/qualify/
and this: https://njfc.force.com/njhelps/NJHelpsHomePage