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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #160 on: December 17, 2021, 01:30:24 PM »
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Respectfully, even if this was true (and I have no reason to doubt your statement of what is accepted in Lakewood) I don't think its productive to say that. We need to publicize positive Torah thoughts on the subject without attacking those who reject them.

It’s a joke, a reversal of an outdated adage about what a Lubavitcher does when there’s only a Litvisher rov to ask a shaila.

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #161 on: December 20, 2021, 01:21:26 PM »
Just going to quote what I personaly heard from the Badie Hashuchan about pskaim coming out of Bais Maran: If you didn't hear it directly from him with your own two ears, it has no halachick worth. (He said it about Rav Elyashiv, but its equaly applicable here)
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2043323/anti-vaxxers-harass-harav-chaims-daughter-rebbetzin-leah-koledetsky.html

“The Rebbetzin added that HaRav Chaim heard about what happened and even requested to hear out the anti-vaxxers. “They sat there for a long time, until two in the morning. The Rav listened to everything, looked at their documents and later spoke with doctors about their claims. Afterward, the Rav said that everything is fine and all the claims are shtuyot (foolishness) and therefore we have to continue to be vaccinated.”

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #162 on: December 20, 2021, 01:30:24 PM »
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2043323/anti-vaxxers-harass-harav-chaims-daughter-rebbetzin-leah-koledetsky.html

“The Rebbetzin added that HaRav Chaim heard about what happened and even requested to hear out the anti-vaxxers. “They sat there for a long time, until two in the morning. The Rav listened to everything, looked at their documents and later spoke with doctors about their claims. Afterward, the Rav said that everything is fine and all the claims are shtuyot (foolishness) and therefore we have to continue to be vaccinated.”
Kol HaKavod for Rav Chaim that he actually spent time with them. I can't say I would do the same. Especially, with the Azus that have...

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #163 on: December 21, 2021, 08:53:13 AM »

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #165 on: December 27, 2021, 06:30:20 PM »
Rav Chaim Kanievsky: Children 5 and Up Should Get Smartphones and Internet

Rav Chaim Kanievsky said today that all children over the age of five should be given a smartphone and begin using the Internet.  The statement came during a meeting at 23 Rechov Rashbam, Rav Chaim's home in Bnei Brak, with senior education officials and doctors, who told Rav Chaim that this will increase their Torah study.

Rav Chaim was also informed that the US Department of Education approved bringing the Internet into every classroom from the age of five. 

At the meeting were the heads of Israel's Education Ministry, leading experts from phone and Internet companies, and Dr. Mushlam Hart, Rav Chaim’s personal physician.

The experts presented info to Rav Chaim regarding the Internet usage of millions of children in the United States and research on the effects on their learning.  “The educational benefits and advantages to children with Internet and smartphones significantly outweigh risks and side-effects,” they told Rav Chaim.

Rav Chaim, who said little during the meeting, responded that children over five should be given smartphones and Internet access, and gave a blessing to those who follow his instructions.

There is a video of Rav Chaim's grandson screaming the question into his ear until Rav Chaim says “Yes”, while the experts look on.  We know the rest because that's what they told us happened.  This is a definitive halachic ruling, the matter is closed, and anyone who has a problem with it is a sheigitz.

This story was first reported by Kikar HaSheker, then it was picked up by Vos Isn't Neias, Arutz Sheker, The Jerusalem Compost, the Slimes of Israel, and others who played the telephone game.  It is now established fact, and if you don't believe it, you're crazy and have no respect for the Torah. -Chananya Weissman

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #166 on: December 27, 2021, 06:38:12 PM »
Rav Chaim Kanievsky: Children 5 and Up Should Get Smartphones and Internet

Rav Chaim Kanievsky said today that all children over the age of five should be given a smartphone and begin using the Internet.  The statement came during a meeting at 23 Rechov Rashbam, Rav Chaim's home in Bnei Brak, with senior education officials and doctors, who told Rav Chaim that this will increase their Torah study.

Rav Chaim was also informed that the US Department of Education approved bringing the Internet into every classroom from the age of five. 

At the meeting were the heads of Israel's Education Ministry, leading experts from phone and Internet companies, and Dr. Mushlam Hart, Rav Chaim’s personal physician.

The experts presented info to Rav Chaim regarding the Internet usage of millions of children in the United States and research on the effects on their learning.  “The educational benefits and advantages to children with Internet and smartphones significantly outweigh risks and side-effects,” they told Rav Chaim.

Rav Chaim, who said little during the meeting, responded that children over five should be given smartphones and Internet access, and gave a blessing to those who follow his instructions.

There is a video of Rav Chaim's grandson screaming the question into his ear until Rav Chaim says “Yes”, while the experts look on.  We know the rest because that's what they told us happened.  This is a definitive halachic ruling, the matter is closed, and anyone who has a problem with it is a sheigitz.

This story was first reported by Kikar HaSheker, then it was picked up by Vos Isn't Neias, Arutz Sheker, The Jerusalem Compost, the Slimes of Israel, and others who played the telephone game.  It is now established fact, and if you don't believe it, you're crazy and have no respect for the Torah. -Chananya Weissman
Nothing new that antivaxxers will resort to bizui talmidei chachamim

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #167 on: December 27, 2021, 06:41:29 PM »
Rav Chaim Kanievsky: Children 5 and Up Should Get Smartphones and Internet

Rav Chaim Kanievsky said today that all children over the age of five should be given a smartphone and begin using the Internet.  The statement came during a meeting at 23 Rechov Rashbam, Rav Chaim's home in Bnei Brak, with senior education officials and doctors, who told Rav Chaim that this will increase their Torah study.

Rav Chaim was also informed that the US Department of Education approved bringing the Internet into every classroom from the age of five. 

At the meeting were the heads of Israel's Education Ministry, leading experts from phone and Internet companies, and Dr. Mushlam Hart, Rav Chaim’s personal physician.

The experts presented info to Rav Chaim regarding the Internet usage of millions of children in the United States and research on the effects on their learning.  “The educational benefits and advantages to children with Internet and smartphones significantly outweigh risks and side-effects,” they told Rav Chaim.

Rav Chaim, who said little during the meeting, responded that children over five should be given smartphones and Internet access, and gave a blessing to those who follow his instructions.

There is a video of Rav Chaim's grandson screaming the question into his ear until Rav Chaim says “Yes”, while the experts look on.  We know the rest because that's what they told us happened.  This is a definitive halachic ruling, the matter is closed, and anyone who has a problem with it is a sheigitz.

This story was first reported by Kikar HaSheker, then it was picked up by Vos Isn't Neias, Arutz Sheker, The Jerusalem Compost, the Slimes of Israel, and others who played the telephone game.  It is now established fact, and if you don't believe it, you're crazy and have no respect for the Torah. -Chananya Weissman

As "cute" and original as your satirical post is and as clear as you make it in the end that this is a joke, I feel like this is not Kavod HaTorah since you are using the name of a gadol to make your point that things are distorted on the internet.

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #168 on: December 27, 2021, 06:44:24 PM »
As "cute" and original as your satirical post is and as clear as you make it in the end that this is a joke, I feel like this is not Kavod HaTorah since you are using the name of a gadol to make your point that things are distorted on the internet.
Besides for insinuating that R Chaim isn't capable of understanding and responding in turn, and potentially causing people to ignore anything that he says

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #169 on: December 27, 2021, 07:11:21 PM »
Rav Chaim Kanievsky: Children 5 and Up Should Get Smartphones and Internet

Rav Chaim Kanievsky said today that all children over the age of five should be given a smartphone and begin using the Internet.  The statement came during a meeting at 23 Rechov Rashbam, Rav Chaim's home in Bnei Brak, with senior education officials and doctors, who told Rav Chaim that this will increase their Torah study.

Rav Chaim was also informed that the US Department of Education approved bringing the Internet into every classroom from the age of five. 

At the meeting were the heads of Israel's Education Ministry, leading experts from phone and Internet companies, and Dr. Mushlam Hart, Rav Chaim’s personal physician.

The experts presented info to Rav Chaim regarding the Internet usage of millions of children in the United States and research on the effects on their learning.  “The educational benefits and advantages to children with Internet and smartphones significantly outweigh risks and side-effects,” they told Rav Chaim.

Rav Chaim, who said little during the meeting, responded that children over five should be given smartphones and Internet access, and gave a blessing to those who follow his instructions.

There is a video of Rav Chaim's grandson screaming the question into his ear until Rav Chaim says “Yes”, while the experts look on. We know the rest because that's what they told us happened.  This is a definitive halachic ruling, the matter is closed, and anyone who has a problem with it is a sheigitz.

This story was first reported by Kikar HaSheker, then it was picked up by Vos Isn't Neias, Arutz Sheker, The Jerusalem Compost, the Slimes of Israel, and others who played the telephone game.  It is now established fact, and if you don't believe it, you're crazy and have no respect for the Torah. -Chananya Weissman
aside from the bizuy Torah as pointed out by others, even were someone looking to make a respectful point, the line bolded here is a separate point from the rest, and could have been made on its own.

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #170 on: December 27, 2021, 07:37:27 PM »
Rav Chaim Kanievsky: Children 5 and Up Should Get Smartphones and Internet
Cute, and aside from the blatant bizayon hatorah shows what the author really thinks of R’ Chaim- as someone who’s incapable of hearing from both sides of an issue (if they exist) and making decisions for himself ch”v. I take it Mr. Wasserman thinks he’s smarter and more capable of parsing data and reaching independent decisions, Halachic and otherwise?

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #171 on: December 27, 2021, 11:38:55 PM »
Cute, and aside from the blatant bizayon hatorah shows what the author really thinks of R’ Chaim- as someone who’s incapable of hearing from both sides of an issue (if they exist) and making decisions for himself ch”v. I take it Mr. Wasserman thinks he’s smarter and more capable of parsing data and reaching independent decisions, Halachic and otherwise?
Lol, I guess you never heard of Chananya Weissman, and the OP probably hasn't either, or he would've at least removed the name from the end.

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #172 on: December 28, 2021, 12:03:39 AM »
Lol, I guess you never heard of Chananya Weissman, and the OP probably hasn't either, or he would've at least removed the name from the end.
Correct.