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We saw that it was contagious. It didn't take much to see that.
Look at the date
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Look at the date

No evidence other than what @yuneeq posted here......
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We saw that it was contagious. It didn't take much to see that.

Yeah but we were getting news about how China was enacting such severe lockdowns.

I did read articles about how there were people who had left at the beginning.

This is part of the reason I was upset at New York I figured that once it already reached New York, The entire New York New Jersey area would be infected soon.

And I knew that me and Miami would be not far behind.


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Yeah but we were getting news about how China was enacting such severe lockdowns.

I did read articles about how there were people who had left at the beginning.

This is part of the reason I was upset at New York I figured that once it already reached New York, The entire New York New Jersey area would be infected soon.

And I knew that me and Miami would be not far behind.



FTR, it is likely that NYC came from MIA
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Let's not forget the idiocy of some conservative talking heads.

(Besides his ignorance over the number 19 in COVID-19)


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FTR, it is likely that NYC came from MIA

MIA had issues from the get go in terms of cruise ships.

I thought NYC came from Italy and or Israel ?

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Let's not forget the idiocy of some conservative talking heads.

(Besides his ignorance over the number 19 in COVID-19)



I think much of the complacency within our community resulted from people like this.
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I think much of the complacency within our community resulted from people like this.

I think many of the issues in our country are because people in general listen to talking heads like this one too much. That goes for all sides of the spectrum.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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I think much of the complacency within our community resulted from people like this.

This is a text I got March 4;

This is from a pathologist in Boca Raton, FL:

Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic.

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.
Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.

2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.

5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.

6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.

7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email.

Good luck to all of us!

Jim
James Robb, MD FCAP

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MIA had issues from the get go in terms of cruise ships.

I thought NYC came from Italy and or Israel ?
Patient zero in New Rochelle caught it in MIA.
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Patient zero in New Rochelle caught it in MIA.
We don't know that.
I'm not who you think I am.

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I think much of the complacency within our community resulted from people like this.
Yup. Many conservative talk radio junkies said for weeks that it was all media propaganda.
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Yup. Many conservative talk radio junkies said for weeks that it was all media propaganda.
The sad thing is they were most likely right about it being propaganda to the media.

If you want to argue that this was a case of "even a stopped clock is right twice a day," and this time they happened to have been right, I can accept that. But does anyone here believe that had Trump been taking it seriously and been all gung-ho about fighting it these very same media would not have been the ones downplaying it and accusing him of overreacting?

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The sad thing is they were most likely right about it being propaganda to the media.

If you want to argue that this was a case of "even a stopped clock is right twice a day," and this time they happened to have been right, I can accept that. But does anyone here believe that had Trump been taking it seriously and been all gung-ho about fighting it these very same media would not have been the ones downplaying it and accusing him of overreacting?
They accused him of overreacting with the travel ban.
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The sad thing is they were most likely right about it being propaganda to the media.

If you want to argue that this was a case of "even a stopped clock is right twice a day," and this time they happened to have been right, I can accept that. But does anyone here believe that had Trump been taking it seriously and been all gung-ho about fighting it these very same media would not have been the ones downplaying it and accusing him of overreacting?
It doesn't matter that you're right. What matters is what actually happened and what cost people's lives.
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