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Why isn't the whole nation on lockdown? How many must die before people wake up?
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Why isn't the whole nation on lockdown? How many must die before people wake up?
Because that is reserved to the states...by the Constitution. Now you're going to blame Trump for the Constitution? And 100k-240k sounds about right before we wake up that Dr. Fauci knows what he's talking about and this nation reaps what it sows...idiots who cant follow simple instructions. 
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Why isn't the whole nation on lockdown? How many must die before people wake up?
Because
More like after hearing the governors say he never consulted them and a quarantine was illegal.
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You just spun it into what you wanted. You ask to name one and I did. The point is SK has done a better job than the US. 
We are on the same trajectory as Italy which has failed.
They are talking about 100k to 240k deaths and you act like no one could do better.

This is the same logic that got us this idiot in the first. Just listen to him speak. He is clueless with what is going on. He claimed today that a scarf is as good or better than a mask. How can you possibly think anyone with a once of common sense could not do better.

For the record, I think that projection is low, which should underscore how serious I think this is. That being said, you gave me a virtual island with powers over their people that cannot be enacted here, both legally and realistically. Are you suggesting that having anyone else as president would allow us to enforce South Korea's measures?

Btw, we're not just on the same trajectory as Italy. We're on the same road as most of Europe. If Trump is such a failure and literally anyone else could do a better job, why aren't they?
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For the record, I think that projection is low, which should underscore how serious I think this is. That being said, you gave me a virtual island with powers over their people that cannot be enacted here, both legally and realistically. Are you suggesting that having anyone else as president would allow us to enforce South Korea's measures?
Btw, we're not just on the same trajectory as Italy. We're on the same road as most of Europe. If Trump is such a failure and literally anyone else could do a better job, why aren't they?
Btw, we're not just on the same trajectory as Italy. We're on the same road as most of Europe. If Trump is such a failure and literally anyone else could do a better job, why aren't they?
I don't care about anyone else. If the rest of the world is a bunch of morons do we have to be one to?  >:(
Don't know how many times I said this but it is drip drip drip. Get a plan together and execute it.
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Btw, we're not just on the same trajectory as Italy. We're on the same road as most of Europe. If Trump is such a failure and literally anyone else could do a better job, why aren't they?I don't care about anyone else. If the rest of the world is a bunch of morons do we have to be one to?  >:(
Don't know how many times I said this but it is drip drip drip. Get a plan together and execute it.

If a part goes wrong on your machine, you have a faulty part. If the same part is broken on all the machines, maybe it's not about your particular part?
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If a part goes wrong on your machine, you have a faulty part. If the same part is broken on all the machines, maybe it's not about your particular part?
Then get the part from Israel, Belgium, South Korea, Turkey, Russia or many other countries.
1k people die in one day and you claim no one can do better than an idiot who claimed 15 would 0.
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The sad thing is they were most likely right about it being propaganda to the media.

If you want to argue that this was a case of "even a stopped clock is right twice a day," and this time they happened to have been right, I can accept that. But does anyone here believe that had Trump been taking it seriously and been all gung-ho about fighting it these very same media would not have been the ones downplaying it and accusing him of overreacting?
I think anyone paying attention to what @yuneeq was saying knew this was the time they were right.
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Then get the part from Israel, Belgium, South Korea, Turkey, Russia or many other countries.
1k people die in one day and you claim no one can do better than an idiot who claimed 15 would 0.

You want Israel? The man literally flew the infection into his country by the thousands and refused to let his minister quarantine them. Watch the numbers in Israel for the next 2 weeks.

You want Belgium? Their covid mortality rate is 6.5%.

You want South Korea? We've gone over this before...

You want Russia? Putin? Really?

Turkey? Edrogen? You gotta be kidding me...

Come on, give me some more!
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You want Israel? The man literally flew the infection into his country by the thousands and refused to let his minister quarantine them. Watch the numbers in Israel for the next 2 weeks.

You want Belgium? Their covid mortality rate is 6.5%.

You want South Korea? We've gone over this before...

You want Russia? Putin? Really?

Turkey? Edrogen? You gotta be kidding me...

Come one, give me some more!
It does not mater who it is you will just spin it the way you want.
Look how you just spun Israel.
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It does not mater who it is you will just spin it the way you want.
Look how you just spun Israel.

Try me. I didn't spin Israel, read the other threads. I've been saying the same thing about Israel all week. Go to www.timesofisrael.com. I don't need to spin anything.
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I think anyone paying attention to what @yuneeq was saying knew this was the time they were right.
But again, that brings us back to the question of did the CDC or FEMA or whoever want to act and he told them not to? Or are we just saying that he should've been the one to realize it's a big deal.

My memory seems to be failing me, but I seem to think there was something pretty big going on Washington during this period which would've kept Trump preoccupied and he probably didn't have enough time to keep up with @yuneeq's posts on DDF :P

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Try me. I didn't spin Israel, read the other threads. I've been saying the same thing about Israel all week. Go to www.timesofisrael.com. I don't need to spin anything.

You can start here:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-nixing-plan-netanyahu-now-says-all-arrivals-must-quarantine-in-hotels/
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Try me. I didn't spin Israel, read the other threads. I've been saying the same thing about Israel all week. Go to www.timesofisrael.com. I don't need to spin anything.
Doesn't Israel have a .5% fatality rate? The same says as Australia?
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Doesn't Israel have a .5% fatality rate? The same says as Australia?

Israel had 10 fatalities today. Their mortality rate is rising, and the hospitals are petrified about what will happen when the cases start rolling in from Bnei Brak.

Australia has handled this exceptionally well. They started screening passengers from China on Jan 23, which means they started taking this seriously before the WHO. I can only speculate, but it appears the high volume of travel they get from China had them on alert before (most) anyone else.

My point isn't that Trump is doing a good job; it's that there aren't really too many examples of other people or countries doing it better. There are few blunders that were made exclusively by this administration. To me, that takes a lot of bite out of the postmortem dissection that is coming on how they handled this.
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Israel had 10 fatalities today. Their mortality rate is rising, and the hospitals are petrified about what will happen when the cases start rolling in from Bnei Brak.

Australia has handled this exceptionally well. They started screening passengers from China on Jan 23, which means they started taking this seriously before the WHO. I can only speculate, but it appears the high volume of travel they get from China had them on alert before (most) anyone else.

My point isn't that Trump is doing a good job; it's that there aren't really too many examples of other people or countries doing it better. There are few blunders that were made exclusively by this administration. To me, that takes a lot of bite out of the postmortem dissection that is coming on how they handled this.
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My point isn't that Trump is doing a good job; it's that there aren't really too many examples of other people or countries doing it better. There are few blunders that were made exclusively by this administration. To me, that takes a lot of bite out of the postmortem dissection that is coming on how they handled this.
Day after day he made stupid ignorant comments that showed he did not take this serious and wasted precious time. That alone is a major blunder that in the end will cost lives.

 
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It case anyone forgot how time was wasted.

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It case anyone forgot how time was wasted.

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Hmm. I must have seen this somewhere before.  :)
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Hmm. I must have seen this somewhere before.  :)
...and you will keep seeing it anytime some idiot tries to rewrite history. FACTS MATTER!!!  ;)
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