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As a head of household, responsible for the wellbeing of your family, would you send out life saving equipment your family might need? What if you were virtually guaranteed to need it in the very near future?
Yes with the belief I will find more when the time comes.
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Your parent.
You have food that will last you for a month. Your neighbors are starving. Do you share some of it with them?
So this is semantics. No hospital in the country has this kind of excess PPE now. If they did then you would be correct.

My father works at the VA and other than a couple kind patients bringing in some N95s or him buying on ebay at 1000% markups, there are none to be found.
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So this is semantics.
Your question was semantics also. I gave you a straight answer. I guess it was to much for me to expect the same in return.
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Your question was semantics also. I gave you a straight answer. I guess it was to much for me to expect the same in return.
If they did then you would be correct.
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Yes with the belief I will find more when the time comes.
What if the time is right now?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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I think the difference in opinion here stems from two missing pieces of data: a) how soon will we need it ourselves, and b) how soon can we replace it?
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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I think the difference in opinion here stems from two missing pieces of data: a) how soon will we need it ourselves, and b) how soon can we replace it?
Exactly.
The US currently doesn't have enough to supply its own hospitals for one day. You don't give charity when you don't have food to feed your kids dinner tonight.

If we had a 30 day supply, then absolutely, give charity.
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I think the difference in opinion here stems from two missing pieces of data: a) how soon will we need it ourselves, and b) how soon can we replace it?
The difference in opinion goes a lot deeper than that.
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The difference in opinion goes a lot deeper than that.
Not that I'm seeing.
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I guess we have a different opinion of a straight answer.  :)
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The difference in opinion goes a lot deeper than that.
I think you are mistaken. I think that the difference between Dan's analogy and yours pretty much sums it up. You were asking based on a hypothetical while everyone here answered based on the reality we are in.
You have one dose of medicine. You can save your parent or you can give it to a stranger in need. Either will die without it.
Who gets it?
Your parent.
You have food that will last you for a month. Your neighbors are starving. Do you share some of it with them?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Not that I'm seeing.
We agree on that. We can continue this after I give a couple of my N95 masks to my neighbor who does not have any.  ;)
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We agree on that. We can continue this after I give a couple of my N95 masks to my neighbor who does not have any.  ;)

How many do you have? How long will they last you?
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My friend Jerry sent me this;

This was me for 31 years... I actually had tears in my eyes reading this. Should I feel guilty for not being there? Tough question.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/05/youre-basically-right-next-nuclear-reactor/?arc404=true

He's 70, retired as top anesthesiologist In one of the countries the most respected hospitals.

He's an expert on malignent hypothermia.

he also has a heart condition and underlying asthma. Would he work ? He says with proper guaranteed ppe he might.

They are offering nurses 10k a week. Such outrageous sums because there's no gear.

Regardless of who started this I find that the deplorable that we, the greatest nation on earth are reliant on China.

Yet somehow it was racist to say America should bring the jobs home.

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I think you are mistaken. I think that the difference between Dan's analogy and yours pretty much sums it up. You were asking based on a hypothetical while everyone here answered based on the reality we are in.
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