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Oh so now they mean different things depending on what the person meant? The question is what the sentences mean. In English.
In English the words have two different meanings. I don't care what the person saying them thinks they mean or the person hearing them thinks they mean. All I care about is if in English they mean the same, they don't!!! Now you want to bet or not?
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You lost your mind. The only difference is the two words. They are totally different. Now we can play your games on what "totally" means.
Ask your wife if they are different. When she says they are then tell her they are not.  :P
Words are funny things. They change meaning based on context. Like how change can mean to transform, transformation, or small coins. Fortunately the context in this case was very clear, as we were discussing a very specific sentence.

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In English the words have two different meanings. I don't care what the person saying them thinks they mean or the person hearing them thinks they mean. All I care about is if in English they mean the same, they don't!!! Now you want to bet or not?
In English words take on different meanings based on context. What is so hard to understand about that? When they are both being used to replace the word “request”, they mean the same thing.
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In English the words have two different meanings. I don't care what the person saying them thinks they mean or the person hearing them thinks they mean. All I care about is if in English they mean the same, they don't!!! Now you want to bet or not?
Does change mean to transform or does it mean small coins?
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How’s your pretzel going?
Telling or asking have different meanings in the same context.

I asked him to take out the garbage.
I told him to take out the garbage.
They mean two different things. You want to bet or not.
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Does change mean to transform or does it mean small coins?
I asked him to donate his change.
I told him to donate his change.
Same exact context but different meanings. You want to bet now?
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Man, the last time I saw this much back and forth over the meaning of words in English was that little "Chinese virus" thing...  8)

But I kinda want a soft pretzel now.
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Telling or asking have different meanings in the same context.

I asked him to take out the garbage.
I told him to take out the garbage.
They mean two different things. You want to bet or not.
Yes. In your example they mean the same thing (assuming “I” is “him”s boss and is asking “him” to take out the garbage in the course of his work for “I”). Let’s bet. Which judge of those I nominated do you choose?
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Man, the last time I saw this much back and forth over the meaning of words in English was that little "Chinese virus" thing...  8)

But I kinda want a soft pretzel now.
He should shut up or put up!  :)
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Again, this is the *exact* question to be judged.

Please choose the judge, I set the terms earlier. $10 from the loser to the Covid victim page of their choice.
Here is the exact question:

In the context of Trump telling people who work for him to slow down the testing, do the following sentences mean the same thing or are they “totally different”?

I told them to slow down the testing.
I asked them to slow down the testing.
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The words have different definitions in the English language. However, context is everything here. There are many times when a request isn't really a request; it's a command given in a polite manner. The same goes for commands given when the person giving the command is in no position to do so; the reality is it is a request. To argue over the semantics here is an epic waste of time, since the end result is the same: Trump is a fool.
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Yes. In your example they mean the same thing (assuming “I” is “him”s boss and is asking “him” to take out the garbage in the course of his work for “I”). Let’s bet. Which judge of those I nominated do you choose?
I am sorry but you are acting like a child. There is no assumption. They are simple English sentences which you can't comprehend.
Ask someone with knowledge of English if ask/told mean the same thing.
Then come back or put up or shut up!!!  :)
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I am sorry but you are acting like a child. There is no assumption. They are simple English sentences which you can't comprehend.
Ask someone with knowledge of English if ask/told mean the same thing.
Then come back or put up or shut up!!!  :)
You are trying to take @Lurker position since you dug yourself such a big hole.
Umm. I literally took you up on your bet. I asked you a question. You answered. I am telling you you’re wrong and am ready to bet on it. The terms are clear. PUOSU.

What are you even rambling about? This was very clearly about a very specific sentence all along. Quit whining and choose the judge :P
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You know you've spent too much time on DDF when you have a rule and a position named after you...
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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You know you've spent too much time on DDF when you have a rule and a position named after you...
That happens a lot around here since some members can't think for themselves. I would be a millionaire if I have a nickel for every time one of my phrases were used since they can't think on their own.
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