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Hopefully even a firstgrader can understand the difference.  ;)
Ask - you give them a choice
Tell- you take away the choice
When a superior asks their underling to do something, they are essentially telling them politely to do it.
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Hopefully even a firstgrader can understand the difference.  ;)
Ask - you give them a choice
Tell- you take away the choice
So after claiming you want to bet and me happily agreeing to do so you’re still trying to beg your case? Why not man up and accept the challenge?
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When a superior asks their underling to do something, they are essentially telling them politely to do it.
Wrong, I have been asked many times by my boss to do something and politely said no.
It is a sign of respect to ask in those situations.
Perfect example: Can you work overtime this Friday? No I already have plans.
That is why the words don't have the same meaning in the same context. English 101.  :)
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Wrong, I have been asked many times by my boss to do something and politely said no.
It is a sign of respect to ask in those situations.
Perfect example: Can you work overtime this Friday? No I already have plans.
That is why the words don't have the same meaning in the same context. English 101.  :)
There they are not asking you do something. They are asking you *if* you are willing to do something.
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There they are not asking you do something. They are asking you *if* you are willing to do something.
So you were not even there and you are going to tell me what he meant.  ::)
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Wrong, I have been asked many times by my boss to do something and politely said no.
It is a sign of respect to ask in those situations.
Perfect example: Can you work overtime this Friday? No I already have plans.
That is why the words don't have the same meaning in the same context. English 101.  :)
Again, this is not something you are REQUIRED to do in your capacity of "underling." but if it was during regular work hours and your boss "asks" you to start working on a project, is that really asking or telling?
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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So you were not even there and you are going to tell me what he meant.  ::)
According to this “demand” is a hyponym of “ask”

It was very obvious what he meant in that context. Assuming I need to be there to understand the words does your case no favors. As I have repeatedly said I invite you to ask any third party their opinion. I even offered to put money on it. Until then keep drinking your Kool Aid.
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Again, this is not something you are REQUIRED to do in your capacity of "underling." but if it was during regular work hours and your boss "asks" you to start working on a project, is that really asking or telling?
It is asking if he asks. I am not a sheep and I speak up. Don't ask (choice) me to do something when you really meant to tell (no choice) me to do it. I can't believe this is even a question.
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It was very obvious what he meant in that context. Assuming I need to be there to understand the words does your case no favors. As I have repeatedly said I invite you to ask any third party their opinion. I even offered to put money on it. Until then keep drinking your Kool Aid.
Ok big mouth. I will ask my sister who has been an English teacher and principal for 40+ years. She also has been a Catholic nun for 50+ years. PUOST!!!
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Ok big mouth. I will ask my sister who has been an English teacher and principal for 40+ years. She also has been a Catholic nun for 50+ years. PUOST!!!
Forgive me if I suspect your sister of bias. Just wouldn’t be fair to you ;)
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Forgive me if I suspect your sister of bias. Just wouldn’t be fair to you ;)
That's ok I will take the chance. You betting or chickening out.
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That's ok I will take the chance. You betting or chickening out.
Umm how about we find someone somewhere in between your sister (your choice) and any random forum member (my choice). Not to mention your sister doesn’t have an account here so I’d be taking your word for it altogether, and trusting you to phrase the question as I wrote it out.
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Umm how about we find someone somewhere in between your sister (your choice) and any random forum member (my choice). Not to mention your sister doesn’t have an account here so I’d be taking your word for it altogether, and trusting you to phrase the question as I wrote it out.
I think you can get an honest answer here on the forums by working out the exact wording of the question together, and then posting it in a new thread, with no mention who said what and what the entire back and forth was. Maybe even put a poll, though members who saw this thread should refrain from voting.
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Umm how about we find someone somewhere in between your sister (your choice) and any random forum member (my choice). Not to mention your sister doesn’t have an account here so I’d be taking your word for it altogether, and trusting you to phrase the question as I wrote it out.
We are not phrasing anything. It is simple as if ask/tell have the same meaning in the same sentence. We are not getting into the mindset of the person asking/telling or the mindset of the person on the receiving end. We have no way no know their thinking and just gives you a way to not pay.   
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