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Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?

Yes
28 (52.8%)
Only if valuable
4 (7.5%)
Normally no, but will sell this year due to COVID-19
11 (20.8%)
No
10 (18.9%)

Total Members Voted: 53

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Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« on: March 30, 2020, 04:24:14 PM »
Vote now :)
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2020, 04:41:51 PM »
Bourbon.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2020, 04:47:13 PM »
Bourbon.
Not so pashut that it is chometz gamur and partially depends on the brand.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 05:17:44 PM »
Not so pashut that it is chometz gamur and partially depends on the brand.
All bourbon by definition is at least 51% corn - doesn't that mean it's not chometz gamur?

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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2020, 05:23:18 PM »
All bourbon by definition is at least 51% corn - doesn't that mean it's not chometz gamur?
I am pretty sure those that don't sell chametz gamur don't see even if it's less than rov
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2020, 05:31:16 PM »
No. But we do sell whiskey and flour.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2020, 05:33:11 PM »
minhag chabad is to sell. some even make sure we have chometz gamor to sell

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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2020, 05:45:07 PM »
All bourbon by definition is at least 51% corn - doesn't that mean it's not chometz gamur?
No-it is defined as kezayis bichdei achilas pras.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 05:54:34 PM »
some even make sure we have chometz gamor to sell
Why?
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 07:40:08 PM »
I don't sell, but the following was posted on the BMG guidelines (R' Forcheimer et al):
Selling Chometz Gomur
We suggest that even if you don’t ordinarily sell גמור חמץ ,this year you should evaluate your situation,
as it will be difficult to obtain Chometz right after Pesach without exposing yourself and others to sakana
from crowds attempting to purchase Chometz. If in the past you did not sell גמור חמץ and you choose
to do so this year you do not need to make נדרים התרת to do so.

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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 07:47:20 PM »
Why?
because the אלטער רבי held that there is no problem whatsoever when sold thru a ערב קבלן. so its "על דרך "כיון דנפיק

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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 07:51:52 PM »
because the אלטער רבי held that there is no problem whatsoever when sold thru a ערב קבלן. so its "על דרך "כיון דנפיק

Besides, you are more likely to encounter חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח issues with געבאקן נאך פסח than with something you made sure to properly sell.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2020, 07:53:56 PM »
Besides, you are more likely to encounter חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח issues with געבאקן נאך פסח than with something you made sure to properly sell.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2020, 07:54:12 PM »
Besides, you are more likely to encounter חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח issues with געבאקן נאך פסח than with something you made sure to properly sell.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2020, 07:56:14 PM »
I don't sell, but the following was posted on the BMG guidelines (R' Forcheimer et al):
Selling Chometz Gomur
We suggest that even if you don’t ordinarily sell גמור חמץ ,this year you should evaluate your situation,
as it will be difficult to obtain Chometz right after Pesach without exposing yourself and others to sakana
from crowds attempting to purchase Chometz. If in the past you did not sell גמור חמץ and you choose
to do so this year you do not need to make נדרים התרת to do so.
I would assume this should apply to any area with a lot of frum Jews especially if it is a hotspot

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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2020, 09:46:26 PM »
Bourbon.
At least according to Rav Moshe, that is considered zaya of chometz not chometz gamur.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2020, 12:38:38 PM »
Besides, you are more likely to encounter חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח issues with געבאקן נאך פסח than with something you made sure to properly sell.
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I don't follow.
Are you accusing Jewish owned grocery stores of not properly selling their chametz?
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2020, 12:45:43 PM »
No-it is defined as kezayis bichdei achilas pras.
Why is it not בטל ברוב מדאורייתא?
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2020, 12:48:23 PM »
I have a stock of Chometz that I would normally throw out but will take and physically give to a Goy along with him paying for it to make sure it's completely outside of my domain and ownership.
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Re: Do You Sell Chametz Gamur?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2020, 06:08:00 PM »
I don't follow.
Are you accusing Jewish owned grocery stores of not properly selling their chametz?
Unfortunately we hear stories every year..