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IZ = Israel Zion = Maimonides Hospital

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In 1920 Israel Hospital merged with Zion Hospital to form United Israel Zion Hospital, later renamed Israel Zion Hospital. Maimonides Medical Center was formed as a result of the merger of United Israel Zion Hospital and Beth Moses Hospital in 1947.
Hatzolah uses IZ as code for the hospital. So should we. Unless you are really good at spelling.
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #482 on: December 02, 2020, 12:05:07 AM »
This story is sadly illustrative of the morsel of truth among the pack of lies that is “the doctors are murdering people”. Is it possible this woman’s life could have been saved with this breakthrough treatment, and something other than the best of moral intentions got in the way of that? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

But the doctors didn’t kill her. COVID did.
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #483 on: December 02, 2020, 12:41:04 AM »
This story is sadly illustrative of the morsel of truth among the pack of lies that is “the doctors are murdering people”. Is it possible this woman’s life could have been saved with this breakthrough treatment, and something other than the best of moral intentions got in the way of that? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

But the doctors didn’t kill her. COVID did.
Covid didn’t kill her. Hashem did

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #484 on: December 02, 2020, 12:53:31 AM »
Covid didn’t kill her. Hashem did
And Hitler is innocent
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #485 on: December 02, 2020, 12:55:13 AM »
CMIIW, but the COVID protocol in the first couple months was “try whatever you think might work”. Blaming protocol for not trying experimental treatments is a weak excuse.
First of all look at the FDA regulations with regards to experimental treatments. Secondly not every hospital has the rights to use the different treatments out there, would it be better if they could? definitely! But unfortunately it is not the case. Thirdly not every patient fits criteria for experimental treatments sometimes it can cause more harm.
All this has to be taken into consideration before just randomly typing whatever comes to your mind.
It's funny to me how everyone became specialists on covid but the actual medical professionals are still stumped.

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #486 on: December 02, 2020, 12:57:07 AM »
Hashem did
But he used Dr. RP as his shliach.

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #487 on: December 02, 2020, 12:59:33 AM »
Man, that escalated quickly...
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #488 on: December 02, 2020, 01:07:20 AM »
Man, that escalated quickly...
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #489 on: December 02, 2020, 01:56:14 AM »
It's funny to me how everyone became specialists on covid but the actual medical professionals are still stumped.

You can find countless articles quoting drs claiming that there was no protocol in March and they were literally told to do whatever they felt was best. But go ahead and criticize all the ignorant peasants that dare think Maimonides is not the most wonderful hospital in the world.
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #490 on: December 02, 2020, 07:14:35 AM »
The klausenberger was right
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #491 on: December 02, 2020, 07:29:49 AM »
...

This would ring true if not for the fact that Miamonodies famously removed the person in charge of Covid patients when he sounded the alarm about putting too many people on vents too early, and if not for the fact that the FDA famously removed most obstacles in trying experimental treatments for Covid.

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #492 on: December 02, 2020, 07:45:08 AM »
You can find countless articles quoting drs claiming that there was no protocol in March and they were literally told to do whatever they felt was best. But go ahead and criticize all the ignorant peasants that dare think Maimonides is not the most wonderful hospital in the world.
it's not March right now, it's December.
If you go back through this thread you'll see I've said countless times there are problems.
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #493 on: December 02, 2020, 08:36:18 AM »

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #494 on: December 02, 2020, 08:41:55 AM »
God always wins.

Yea... the progression I saw was doctors killed her, yada yada, Hitler is innocent.
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #495 on: December 02, 2020, 08:42:42 AM »
What does the possible negligence involved in the death have to do with the fundraiser? This is straight up clickbait.

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #496 on: December 02, 2020, 08:53:27 AM »
In this case her dr’s (& many others) desperately tried to save her but were no match for an executive’s ego.

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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #497 on: December 02, 2020, 09:46:37 AM »
In this case her dr’s (& many others) desperately tried to save her but were no match for an executive’s ego.
Convalescent Plasma is not effective longer than a week after contracting covid.  She came in way past the 1 week mark.  Her doctors weren't pushing to give her plasma since it was too late to be effective, but were willing to give it to make the askanim happy, since it wasn't likely to harm her.
Bob Press didn't allow it to be given.  But that didn't contribute to her death.
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« Reply #498 on: December 02, 2020, 09:49:40 AM »
This would ring true if not for the fact that Miamonides famously removed the person in charge of Covid patients when he sounded the alarm about putting too many people on vents too early,
Which person?
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Re: Maimonides
« Reply #499 on: December 02, 2020, 09:50:07 AM »
But that didn't contribute to her death.
We’ll never know, will we