Topic Wiki

IZ = Israel Zion = Maimonides Hospital

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides_Medical_Center:
Quote
In 1920 Israel Hospital merged with Zion Hospital to form United Israel Zion Hospital, later renamed Israel Zion Hospital. Maimonides Medical Center was formed as a result of the merger of United Israel Zion Hospital and Beth Moses Hospital in 1947.
Hatzolah uses IZ as code for the hospital. So should we. Unless you are really good at spelling.
« Last edited by YitzyS on March 30, 2020, 09:50:37 PM »

Author Topic: Maimonides  (Read 23331 times)

Offline Moshe123

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 4890
  • Total likes: 154
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Spring Valley
  • Programs: Lost
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #75 on: March 31, 2020, 09:45:37 AM »
I have what to say on this topic as my shver a"h came out of there in a body bag this week, but my shver would have shushed me that the hospital didn't do anything and that's what Hashem did and only him.

Offline Mordyk

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 3433
  • Total likes: 485
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold and whatever
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2020, 09:46:29 AM »
I have what to say on this topic as my shver a"h came out of there in a body bag this week, but my shver would have shushed me that the hospital didn't do anything and that's what Hashem did and only him.
:'( :'( :'(

Offline flyingace

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 920
  • Total likes: 103
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2020, 10:44:19 AM »
I have what to say on this topic as my shver a"h came out of there in a body bag this week, but my shver would have shushed me that the hospital didn't do anything and that's what Hashem did and only him.
Someone whose father has been hospitalized for a
while said the same thing. Never thought he had a problem with kochi v'otzem yadi thinking until now. There is NO ONE to rely on except Hashem. No doctors, nurses, or even family members to take care of a sick person!

Offline AsherO

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 22472
  • Total likes: 891
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 74
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2020, 10:48:41 AM »
Someone whose father has been hospitalized for a
while said the same thing. Never thought he had a problem with kochi v'otzem yadi thinking until now. There is NO ONE to rely on except Hashem. No doctors, nurses, or even family members to take care of a sick person!

This is true in any hospital under any circumstance. Many Attendings think they are G-d’s gift to humanity.
My barber needs your support, he’s a real sweetheart.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-our-barber-shop

Offline flyingace

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 920
  • Total likes: 103
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2020, 10:49:41 AM »
This is true in any hospital under any circumstance. Many Attendings think they are G-d’s gift to humanity.
But now the illusion is totally gone.

Offline AsherO

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 22472
  • Total likes: 891
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 74
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2020, 10:52:28 AM »
But now the illusion is totally gone.

Not if you’re oblivious. Those same attendings might be exhausted and worn, but their ego will likely emerge unscathed. #wishimwrong
My barber needs your support, he’s a real sweetheart.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-our-barber-shop

Offline aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 11234
  • Total likes: 5155
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 8
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2020, 10:56:17 AM »
Not if you’re oblivious. Those same attendings might be exhausted and worn, but their ego will likely emerge unscathed. #wishimwrong
Be happy if they only emerge unscathed and not more inflated.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline knowitall

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 672
  • Total likes: 47
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: 08701
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2020, 11:03:58 AM »
Be happy if they only emerge unscathed and not more inflated.
This. “I worked like Superman to save the world”

Offline flyingace

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 920
  • Total likes: 103
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2020, 11:05:41 AM »
Not if you’re oblivious. Those same attendings might be exhausted and worn, but their ego will likely emerge unscathed. #wishimwrong
This. “I worked like Superman to save the world”
Be happy if they only emerge unscathed and not more inflated.
I am not talking about them, I am talking about us. We need to rely only on Hashem.

Offline AsherO

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 22472
  • Total likes: 891
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 74
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #84 on: March 31, 2020, 11:06:39 AM »
I am not talking about them, I am talking about us. We need to rely only on Hashem.

Of course. And that’s true even if G-d willing we’re all home, safe and healthy.
My barber needs your support, he’s a real sweetheart.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-our-barber-shop

Offline iAm

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 123
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2020, 11:37:28 AM »
I don't understand why the people of Boro Park think they're special and entitled to have visitors in the hospital right now, to the extent that theyre fighting with the administration and even sneaking in right now against guidance. I went through the Top 10 Hospitals on USNews, and NOT A SINGLE ONE is allowing visitors right now.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/covid-19/rochester
https://www.massgeneral.org/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-latest-updates#visitor
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/visitor-guidelines.html
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/landing/preparing-for-coronavirus#visitor-restrictions-tab
https://www.nyp.org/coronavirus-information/coronavirus-visitor-policy-change
https://www.uclahealth.org/covid-19-visitor-restrictions
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/for-visitors/visitor-restrictions-due-to-coronavirus
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/patients-visitors/covid-19/visitor-policy-updates.html
https://nyulangone.org/patient-family-support/visiting-hours?iid=int_org_hp_hero_covid19_visitor_policy
https://www.nm.org/conditions-and-care-areas/infectious-disease/covid-19


These guidelines, while difficult for patients and families, are in place for everyones protection. By going and sneaking in, as alleged above, you are risking cross contaminating and infecting non-covid patients that are currently in the hospital, hospital employees, and your community when you leave.
iThink. Ergo. iAm

Offline PlatinumGuy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 11332
  • Total likes: 568
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 8
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #86 on: March 31, 2020, 11:38:38 AM »
I don't understand why the people of Boro Park think they're special and entitled
Say no more.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

Offline iAm

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 123
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #87 on: March 31, 2020, 11:43:21 AM »
There is no reason to believe that Maimo is specifically targeting Jews or any group for substandard care for this moment. They are simply overwhelmed right now, as every other hospital in NYC is right now, and trying their best to provide some semblance of care. Many of their ER doctors have posted in Twitter that a lot of their ED staff called out sick last week and they were significantly understaffed. You should all stop spreading baseless rumors, or stories from your brother-in-laws, uncles, friend; or seek your hospital care at another hospital in nyc thats able to provide VIP care at this time.
iThink. Ergo. iAm

Offline Yammer

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Aug 2015
  • Posts: 3667
  • Total likes: 215
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #88 on: March 31, 2020, 12:08:22 PM »
There is no reason to believe that Maimo is specifically targeting Jews or any group for substandard care for this moment. They are simply overwhelmed right now, as every other hospital in NYC is right now, and trying their best to provide some semblance of care. Many of their ER doctors have posted in Twitter that a lot of their ED staff called out sick last week and they were significantly understaffed. You should all stop spreading baseless rumors, or stories from your brother-in-laws, uncles, friend; or seek your hospital care at another hospital in nyc thats able to provide VIP care at this time.
Pretty simple.

Everyone knows that it's not advisable to leave a patient in a hospital without a family member. There are organizations that send volunteers to stay with patients so family members can get some rest.

The current situation has totally uprooted it. There is good reason to believe that the level of care has dropped dramatically. So as soon as terrible stories start surfacing, along with BP Hatzolah taking patients elsewhere, ppl are complaining about not being able to "see" the situation first-hand and are demanding entrance. It has nothing to do with entitlement.

Offline iAm

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 123
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2020, 12:18:21 PM »
Pretty simple.

Everyone knows that it's not advisable to leave a patient in a hospital without a family member. There are organizations that send volunteers to stay with patients so family members can get some rest.

The current situation has totally uprooted it. There is good reason to believe that the level of care has dropped dramatically. So as soon as terrible stories start surfacing, along with BP Hatzolah taking patients elsewhere, ppl are complaining about not being able to "see" the situation first-hand and are demanding entrance. It has nothing to do with entitlement.

Yes, this is all true - but this is true for every demographic that walks into a hospital, not just Jews in Boro Park. Yet the hospitals have universally taken the unprecedented move of banning visitors; this is not because they have something to hide, its because its ridiculous to believe that a sitter will actually sit in the patients room for the duration of the stay and not just be a roving fomite around the hospital. All people are receiving a standard of care thats not on par with non-crisis situations because thats what happens in triage.
iThink. Ergo. iAm