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IZ = Israel Zion = Maimonides Hospital

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In 1920 Israel Hospital merged with Zion Hospital to form United Israel Zion Hospital, later renamed Israel Zion Hospital. Maimonides Medical Center was formed as a result of the merger of United Israel Zion Hospital and Beth Moses Hospital in 1947.
Hatzolah uses IZ as code for the hospital. So should we. Unless you are really good at spelling.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #280 on: April 01, 2020, 07:39:59 AM »

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #281 on: April 01, 2020, 08:33:23 AM »
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #282 on: April 01, 2020, 08:57:41 AM »
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This is going to cost lives, not save them.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #283 on: April 01, 2020, 09:00:47 AM »
I hope youre wrong. Ive seen models of NYC deaths RL peaking around April 9th
I daven that you are correct. With the lack of social distancing in the non-jewish population the subways still open that seems to be a pipedream.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #284 on: April 01, 2020, 09:14:53 AM »
How exactly does the Jewish community they serve view the bioethics behind rationing of care?
This was the question that elicited the response that the broad shoulders of a Rabbi are needed to answer. No one implied forcing hospitals or doctors to listen to their psak. But if you want to know the Jewish view, yes, Rabbis will answer, because it is a very difficult ethical question. Funny, Dr. Koop had no problem consulting with Reb Moshe.

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #285 on: April 01, 2020, 09:16:53 AM »
YWN has Maimonides as their sponsor of COVID Blog....

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #286 on: April 01, 2020, 09:44:31 AM »
I hope youre wrong. Ive seen models of NYC deaths RL peaking around April 9th
Italy with stricter isolation took them more than 3 weeks to reach the peak in new cases (3 days with the same amount of new cases). Peak for deaths will be in another 2-3 weeks. We are far from our peak and looking at NYC's numbers it's not pretty.

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #287 on: April 01, 2020, 09:55:50 AM »
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In my opinion, this is a great idea, but with one minor alteration. The masses should come to the hospital with huge appreciation posters instead, thanking the medical staff for their hard work. Yes, it may be blatant falsehood. But it might actually accomplish something.

Like if you agree.
(Yes, I'm unabashedly asking for likes. I gotta feed my wife and kids somehow and desperate times call for desperate measures.)

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #288 on: April 01, 2020, 10:12:38 AM »
Why not have live web-cams in each room, so that
A. Paitiants can think they're being watched by lived ones, which will boost their moral.
B. Family can check in with the paitiants, and boost their own moral and hopes.
C. Nurses will know their is accountability, they are or might be being watched.
D. Hospital directorship can ensure their staff are working properly.

Thoughts?

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #289 on: April 01, 2020, 10:16:17 AM »
Why not have live web-cams in each room, so that
A. Paitiants can think they're being watched by lived ones, which will boost their moral.
B. Family can check in with the paitiants, and boost their own moral and hopes.
C. Nurses will know their is accountability, they are or might be being watched.
D. Hospital directorship can ensure their staff are working properly.

Thoughts?
Israel is big into that. Army special units are wiring up hospital beds.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #290 on: April 01, 2020, 10:33:27 AM »
In my opinion, this is a great idea, but with one minor alteration. The masses should come to the hospital with huge appreciation posters instead, thanking the medical staff for their hard work. Yes, it may be blatant falsehood. But it might actually accomplish something.

Like if you agree.
(Yes, I'm unabashedly asking for likes. I gotta feed my wife and kids somehow and desperate times call for desperate measures.)

I thought the same thing

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #291 on: April 01, 2020, 10:40:22 AM »
Is this actually a real thing ? Any gathering now is a terrible idea & extremely dangerous.

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #292 on: April 01, 2020, 10:42:43 AM »
Why not have live web-cams in each room, so that
A. Paitiants can think they're being watched by lived ones, which will boost their moral.
B. Family can check in with the paitiants, and boost their own moral and hopes.
C. Nurses will know their is accountability, they are or might be being watched.
D. Hospital directorship can ensure their staff are working properly.

Thoughts?

In my hospital, staff has actually pushed for something like this too...there is major HIPAA issues that get in the way though. The hospitals would have to ensure that all these simultaneous streams that leave the walls of the hospital maintain secure.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #293 on: April 01, 2020, 11:14:56 AM »
In my hospital, staff has actually pushed for something like this too...there is major HIPAA issues that get in the way though. The hospitals would have to ensure that all these simultaneous streams that leave the walls of the hospital maintain secure.

Govt is waiving regulations at lighting speed...
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #294 on: April 01, 2020, 11:19:23 AM »
Why not have live web-cams in each room, so that
A. Paitiants can think they're being watched by lived ones, which will boost their moral.
B. Family can check in with the paitiants, and boost their own moral and hopes.
C. Nurses will know their is accountability, they are or might be being watched.
D. Hospital directorship can ensure their staff are working properly.

Thoughts?
Will never happen.
It would open the hospital and doctors to malpractice lawsuits.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #295 on: April 01, 2020, 11:27:28 AM »
Will never happen.
It would open the hospital and doctors to malpractice lawsuits.
It should help cut down on frivolous malpractice lawsuits.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #296 on: April 01, 2020, 11:27:39 AM »
In my hospital, staff has actually pushed for something like this too...there is major HIPAA issues that get in the way though. The hospitals would have to ensure that all these simultaneous streams that leave the walls of the hospital maintain secure.

Exceptional times call for exceptional measures, but like I said earlier, hospitals are all about protocol and there arent sufficient resources to fully flesh out and develop these protocols right now, when saving lives is enough of a responsibility.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #297 on: April 01, 2020, 12:37:13 PM »
How do you define what the level of responsibility is? Is a doctor required to work 18 hours a day for a month ?

It's very easy to say "it's their job"

Why don't people go in and volunteer?!?

I'm not sure they allow that but if they are understaffed, who knows.


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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #298 on: April 01, 2020, 12:43:15 PM »
How do you define what the level of responsibility is? Is a doctor required to work 18 hours a day for a month ?

It's very easy to say "it's their job"

Why don't people go in and volunteer?!?

I'm not sure they allow that but if they are understaffed, who knows.

They need qualified medical professionals. People who know their protocols (even in these challenging times). People who know their systems and modes of communication. Taking people off the street sounds unlikely, even negligent.
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Re: Maimonidies
« Reply #299 on: April 01, 2020, 12:46:03 PM »
They need qualified medical professionals. People who know their protocols (even in these challenging times). People who know their systems and modes of communication. Taking people off the street sounds unlikely, even negligent.
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