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Re: Masks
« Reply #1440 on: March 09, 2023, 10:50:37 AM »
So the mandates on social distancing and home isolation worked. We are making some progress.  ;)
Of course it worked. Welding apartment buildings shut worked even better.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1441 on: March 09, 2023, 10:59:33 AM »
Of course it worked.
Just want to make sure we are all on the same page that some mandates worked. That is progress.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1442 on: March 09, 2023, 11:01:10 AM »
Just want to make sure we are all on the same page that some mandates worked. That is progress.

Please find me the posts from non-lunatics who don't think keeping people apart will stop the spread of a viral infection. That was never the question

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1443 on: March 09, 2023, 11:02:37 AM »
Just want to make sure we are all on the same page that some mandates worked. That is progress.
That was only ever a straw man
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1444 on: March 09, 2023, 11:04:17 AM »
Please find me the posts from non-lunatics...
That is subjective, no?  :)
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1445 on: March 09, 2023, 11:09:40 AM »
That is subjective, no?  :)

Absolutely. Basically anyone not on my ignore list ;-)

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1446 on: March 09, 2023, 11:10:52 AM »


He's very good

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1447 on: March 09, 2023, 11:12:43 AM »
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1448 on: March 09, 2023, 11:16:34 AM »
Social distancing helps with the full viral load not reaching someone. We agree this helps.
Masks also help with the full viral load not reaching someone. Some say this doesn't help.
Common sense tells me something isn't right here.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1449 on: March 09, 2023, 12:51:51 PM »
Social distancing helps with the full viral load not reaching someone. We agree this helps.
Masks also help with the full viral load not reaching someone. Some say this doesn't help.
Common sense tells me something isn't right here.
Can we quote Biden here?

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1450 on: March 09, 2023, 12:54:41 PM »
Social distancingLocking people in their houses helps with the full viral load not reaching someone. We agree this helps.
It seems the 6 feet social distancing rule is actually 1800s science (Before widespread virology was a thing, so not really so helpful)

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1451 on: March 09, 2023, 01:00:25 PM »
Can we quote Biden here?
What does Biden have to do with it?
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1452 on: March 09, 2023, 01:04:09 PM »
Please find me the posts from non-lunatics who don't think keeping people apart will stop the spread of a viral infection. That was never the question
It seems the 6 feet social distancing rule is actually 1800s science (Before widespread virology was a thing, so not really so helpful)
Non-lunatic?  :)
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1453 on: March 09, 2023, 01:06:25 PM »
Non-lunatic?  :)
Find me the science behind that metric please before you call me anything.

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1454 on: March 09, 2023, 01:10:06 PM »
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/staying-6-feet-apart-often-isnt-enough-during-covid-19-pandemic
ETA: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8215400/ :
 Recent studies of respiratory emissions have demonstrated that coughing and sneezing result in exhalation speeds of up to 30 meters/second and create clouds of varying sized droplets that travel up to 8 meters. Therefore, it appears there are many conditions under which airborne transmission could well exceed 6 feet.
And:  Recent studies contest the presumption that infectious risk is negligible at a 6-foot distance for COVID-19.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1455 on: March 09, 2023, 01:15:39 PM »
Non-lunatic?  :)

Hold up, do you where the 6 feet measurement came from?

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Re: Masks
« Reply #1456 on: March 09, 2023, 01:16:40 PM »
Find me the science behind that metric please before you call me anything.
I didn't call you anything. I was asking a question.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/staying-6-feet-apart-often-isnt-enough-during-covid-19-pandemic
I missed the part where it states that 6ft doesn't help?
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1457 on: March 09, 2023, 01:19:34 PM »
Pretty clear in there that it's not based on modern science. But if you want it spoon-fed:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2018995118
ETA: https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/infection-control/distancing-isn-t-helping-you-indoor-covid-19-exposure-risk-same-at-6-60-feet-mit-researcher-says.html
A quote: "The distancing isn't helping you that much and it's also giving you a false sense of security, because you're as safe at six feet as you are at 60 feet if you're indoors. Everyone in that space is at roughly the same risk, actually," Mr. Bazant said.
From the study: Above all, our study makes clear the inadequacy of the Six-Foot Rule in mitigating indoor airborne disease transmission, and offers a rational, physically informed alternative for managing life in the time of COVID-19.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1458 on: March 09, 2023, 01:23:22 PM »
Pretty clear in there that it's not based on modern science. But if you want it spoon-fed:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2018995118
I think you are missing the point. We are talking about if SD helps or not. Most of seemed to agree it does but you don't.
Please show where it states the SD does not help.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #1459 on: March 09, 2023, 01:26:45 PM »
I think you are missing the point. We are talking about if SD helps or not. Most of seemed to agree it does but you don't.
Please show where it states the SD does not help.
Please show where I said that. I agreed locking people in their homes limits spread. I just didn't agree with the Holy Grail "Social Distancing" of 6 feet beamed down by the Fauci on high. I pointed out that it was outdated and ineffective. I said there was no scientific basis for 6 feet. I didn't say you won't have lower spread if no one can leave their home.