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Re: Masks
« Reply #240 on: July 19, 2020, 12:50:50 PM »
Amazing. Almost like anti-vaxers.

Masks protect OTHERS from infected people wearing them. Just like the vaccines protect the anti-vaxers because a large percentage has built-up immunity.
Are you trying to say that a non-mask wearer is being as selfish and irresponsible as an anti-vaxxer? :P
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Re: Masks
« Reply #241 on: July 19, 2020, 01:22:39 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Masks
« Reply #243 on: July 19, 2020, 04:14:14 PM »
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Re: Masks
« Reply #244 on: July 19, 2020, 05:52:03 PM »
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People that post BS like this endanger people that have genuine disabilities and heath issues.

Same issue as people that try to pass pets off as service animals.

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״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Masks
« Reply #246 on: July 20, 2020, 04:00:42 PM »
https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/2020/07/15/a-simple-step-to-help-keep-you-safe-walmart-and-sams-club-require-shoppers-to-wear-face-coverings

To help bring consistency across stores and clubs, we will require all shoppers to wear a face covering starting Monday, July 20. This will give us time to inform customers and members of the changes, post signage and train associates on the new protocols.

WALMART-  The ambassadors, identifiable by their black polo shirts, will work with customers who show up at a store without a face covering to try and find a solution.
 
SAMS CLUB- At Sam’s Clubs, associates at the entrance will follow the same process with members, politely reminding them of our requirement to wear a face covering when shopping with us. Complimentary masks will be provided if the member doesn’t have one. Or members can purchase masks in the club.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #247 on: July 21, 2020, 07:20:20 PM »

My costum made "I Am Virtue Signaling" mask should be arriving soon.

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Re: Masks
« Reply #248 on: July 21, 2020, 08:22:37 PM »
My costume made "I Am Virtue Signaling" mask should be arriving soon.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #249 on: July 23, 2020, 11:58:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/quicktake/status/1286491848949858305
A few observations:

1. There's no mention of the difference between covering the nose or not. The images seem to indicate almost no excretion from the nose.

2. How meaningful is this study if it only shows the effects 5cm away? How about a more normal 50cm away, which would probably be the minimum distance between the faces of two people facing each other.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #250 on: July 24, 2020, 10:41:58 AM »


2. How meaningful is this study if it only shows the effects 5cm away? How about a more normal 50cm away, which would probably be the minimum distance between the faces of two people facing each other.

Agreed. A mask which doesn't filter droplets and aerosols but slows their velocity to prevent them from traveling far or staying airborne is also a very significant benefit.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #251 on: July 24, 2020, 01:05:38 PM »
Agreed. A mask which doesn't filter droplets and aerosols but slows their velocity to prevent them from traveling far or staying airborne is also a very significant benefit.

Exactly my point. But that would be missed by almost everyone (and I would venture to say that the omission is probably intentional).
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Re: Masks
« Reply #252 on: July 24, 2020, 01:23:00 PM »
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Re: Masks
« Reply #253 on: July 24, 2020, 01:51:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/quicktake/status/1286491848949858305
A few observations:

1. There's no mention of the difference between covering the nose or not. The images seem to indicate almost no excretion from the nose.

2. How meaningful is this study if it only shows the effects 5cm away? How about a more normal 50cm away, which would probably be the minimum distance between the faces of two people facing each other.
5cm is the scale, the line under 5cm is equivalent to 5cm.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #254 on: July 24, 2020, 02:19:34 PM »
5cm is the scale, the line under 5cm is equivalent to 5cm.

I stand corrected. So based on my non-scientific observation, the images seem to illustrate the effects about 15cm-25cm out. I would argue that most face to face interactions are at a greater distance (at least double), and even at the shown distance, it seems like even with the lowest quality mask there are very few droplets, if any, that reach the 25cm range.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #255 on: July 24, 2020, 02:21:50 PM »
I stand corrected. So based on my non-scientific observation, the images seem to illustrate the effects about 15cm-25cm out. I would argue that most face to face interactions are at a greater distance (at least double), and even at the shown distance, it seems like even with the lowest quality mask there are very few droplets, if any, that reach the 25cm range.
One variable may be how log they stay airborne. I have no data on that.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #256 on: July 24, 2020, 02:38:45 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Masks
« Reply #257 on: July 24, 2020, 02:39:41 PM »
One variable may be how log they stay airborne. I have no data on that.

Everyone seeks confirmation bias, picking and choosing studies and data sets that support their narrative. That's how the world works.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #259 on: July 24, 2020, 02:45:17 PM »
Is this satire?

That's up to viewer discretion.
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