Masks

[CountValentine]

It's important to note that Murphy said, "We’re gonna ask you: If you can’t socially distance, it’s gonna be required.” So yes, when you're in close quarters, even outdoors, masks are very helpful.

What is the issue then?
If Trump said that he would get an A+ from me for saying it.

[biobook]

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/07/nj-will-now-require-people-wear-masks-outside-to-battle-coronavirus-murphy-says.html

Knucklehead

Could you clarify what fault you find with the requirement to "wear masks outside when social distancing isn't possible"?

[ExGingi]

Will you be 6 feet away from people?

Nope. Only 5ft.

[db23]

Nope. Only 5ft.

real guideline is around 3 feet. they say 4-6 feet for a buffer.

[Lurker]

Could you clarify what fault you find with the requirement to "wear masks outside when social distancing isn't possible"?

The argument is that there aren't enough cases in NJ to warrant any mask usage at all, and by pushing this mandate now, it increases the chance that it will be ignored in a few weeks when it will actually be necessary.

[Lurker]

real guideline is around 3 feet. they say 4-6 feet for a buffer.

Source?

[yuneeq]

My questions for Murphy are - why wait until now to say this? And why is the rules for outdoors more stringent than indoors?

[Lurker]

My questions for Murphy are - why wait until now to say this? And why is the rules for outdoors more stringent than indoors?

In what way?

[CountValentine]

My questions for Murphy are - why wait until now to say this?

Because he is an idiot but this one he got right.

[yuneeq]

In what way?

Masks are not always required indoors "when social distancing is not possible".

[CountValentine]

Masks are not always required indoors "when social distancing is not possible".

So the same for indoor and outdoor?

[Yo ssi]

real guideline is around 3 feet. they say 4-6 feet for a buffer.

That reminds me of Canada, they have different lengths for different ages

[db23]

Source?

this from the WHO. (also saw it in A WSJ video on sports stadium safety)

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

"Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and others. Why? When someone coughs, sneezes, or speaks they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus"

[Mikes@Micro]

My questions for Murphy are - why wait until now to say this? And why is the rules for outdoors more stringent than indoors?

Wasnt the election yesterday?

[yuneeq]

this from the WHO. (also saw it in A WSJ video on sports stadium safety)

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

"Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and others. Why? When someone coughs, sneezes, or speaks they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus"

Please never quote the WHO. Happy they finally caved in to public pressure.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who-airborne/who-acknowledges-evidence-emerging-of-airborne-spread-of-covid-19-idUSKBN2482AU

Any change in the WHO’s assessment of risk of transmission could affect its current advice on keeping 1-metre (3.3 feet) of physical distancing. Governments, which rely on the agency for guidance policy, may also have to adjust public health measures aimed at curbing the spread of the virus.

[Lurker]

this from the WHO. (also saw it in A WSJ video on sports stadium safety)

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

"Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and others. Why? When someone coughs, sneezes, or speaks they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus"

That was from before they admitted the virus is airborne. Kinda changes a few things...

[Lurker]

https://www.foxnews.com/health/wearing-mask-cuts-own-risk-novel-coronavirus-65-percent-experts-say

[S209]

https://www.foxnews.com/health/wearing-mask-cuts-own-risk-novel-coronavirus-65-percent-experts-say

“Everyone should wear a mask,” Blumberg said. “People who say, ‘I don’t believe masks work,’ are ignoring scientific evidence. It’s not a belief system. It’s like saying, ‘I don’t believe in gravity.’"

[ExGingi]

“Everyone should wear a mask,” Blumberg said. “People who say, ‘I don’t believe masks work,’ are ignoring scientific evidence. It’s not a belief system. It’s like saying, ‘I don’t believe in gravity.’"

בהשגחה פרטית this past week there's a Hayom Yom that some people struggle with, thinking that it somehow denies gravity:



In actuality, this doesn't at all deny gravity, and is probably fully in-line with current astrophysics. The Alter Rebbe isn't saying that gravity doesn't exist, he's saying that attributing not falling off the face of the earth on the other to gravity is the wrong answer. What the Alter Rebbe is saying is that the entire premise of question is wrong, as there is no real upper and lower side to earth.

[gozalim]

בהשגחה פרטית this past week there's a Hayom Yom that some people struggle with, thinking that it somehow denies gravity:



In actuality, this doesn't at all deny gravity, and is probably fully in-line with current astrophysics. The Alter Rebbe isn't saying that gravity doesn't exist, he's saying that attributing not falling off the face of the earth on the other to gravity is the wrong answer. What the Alter Rebbe is saying is that the entire premise of question is wrong, as there is no real upper and lower side to earth.

please elaborate. that it isn't saying the oversimplification is granted. detailed specifics of what it is saying i'd love to hear