Masks

[ExGingi]

please elaborate. that it isn't saying the oversimplification is granted. detailed specifics of what it is saying i'd love to hear

Not sure what detailed specifics you're looking for, when it's right there in front of everyone's eyes to see. The "chidush" is that he is drawing the physical conclusion from a metaphysical (I'm not sure if that's the right term, but I didn't want to use ruchnius, as I'm not sure that's the right term either, maybe @Freddie can help) concept. In the physical world, a circle has no beginning or end, and a sphere has no top or bottom, as all sides are the same. If I understand correctly, the Alter Rebbe is saying that the reason the laws of physics are such in regards to spheres, is because they draw their physical existence from the metaphysical concept of Igulim which have no top or bottom (i.e. there's no higher or lower level within an igul).

[jj1000]

What happened to the Honeywell masks post from JJ?

https://www.dansdeals.com/more/coronavirus/200-honeywell-niosh-certified-n95-respirators-just-270-shipped/

[yitzgar]

https://www.dansdeals.com/more/coronavirus/200-honeywell-niosh-certified-n95-respirators-just-270-shipped/

Just saw it there, thanks

[Jeremiah]

OK I'll continue here.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87120
I love the part about people wearing a mask in their car alone. It always made me chuckle. People just wear masks without thinking.

[CountValentine]

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87120

The opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author.

I love the part about people wearing a mask in their car alone. It always made me chuckle. People just wear masks without thinking.

Some find it easier to just keep it on. They might also might be picking someone up.

[Jeremiah]

I'm aware. I happen to agree to lots of what he said. You cant prove that they are ineffective but there is not enough hard evidence the other way. And there are consequences the other way. Bottom line just use common sense. No need to force this onto healthy people. People in the high risk category will take extra precautions anyways

[CountValentine]

I'm aware. I happen to agree to lots of what he said. You cant prove that they are ineffective but there is not enough hard evidence the other way. And there are consequences the other way. Bottom line just use common sense. No need to force this onto healthy people. People in the high risk category will take extra precautions anyways

For the majority of Americans wearing a mask is no big deal. If they are not affective nothing is lost. If they are affective it will save lives.
Pretty simple chose for me.

[S209]

OK I'll continue here.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87120
I love the part about people wearing a mask in their car alone. It always made me chuckle. People just wear masks without thinking.

This article focuses exclusively on the efficacy of mask wearing as *protection* but doesn’t even discuss the efficacy of masks as far as transmission *to others* (which would obviously be the point of a mask mandate). Oh, and for protection? He concludes that at risk people (health care workers, the elderly) *should* most definitely be wearing masks *as protection*, and (surprise, surprise!) isn’t worried about all of the terrible effects on health that masks are supposed to be causing.

No, people don’t just wear masks without thinking. There are many reasons you would see someone in a car with a mask. But if everyone *would* wear masks without thinking we’d all be a lot better off.

[aygart]

You cant prove that they are ineffective

That is absolutely true, and the reason is because they ARE effective and there is PLENTY of hard evidence to prove it.

[S209]

I'm aware. I happen to agree to lots of what he said. You cant prove that they are ineffective but there is not enough hard evidence the other way. And there are consequences the other way. Bottom line just use common sense. No need to force this onto healthy people. People in the high risk category will take extra precautions anyways

You clearly missed the purpose of his piece. There are no consequences the other way- he is concerned about the lack of PPE available, but a homemade mask won’t cause that and will protect others as well. There is absolutely a preponderance of hard evidence that mask wearing protects others. It’s not in dispute by any actual scientists or doctors. Seemingly masks protect the wearer as well, but there is *less* proof and it is *less effective* in that way.

[Lurker]

Y'all wasting your time... don't you know all the doctors and the king governors are just lying to you? Covid is cancelled, there's herd immunity in NY/NJ. It wasn't even a huge price to pay, just the brain cells that control rational thought.

[Mikes@Micro]

@S209 we've gone through this before (cue the wheel....) but do you care to elaborate on reasons to wear a mask when alone in a car?

[aygart]

@S209 we've gone through this before (cue the wheel....) but do you care to elaborate on reasons to wear a mask when alone in a car?

1. To not be constantly touching the mask before washing your hands
2. For convenience to avoid copnstantly taking it on and off for a person who is not bothered by it
3. Because they will be picking up passengers shortly.

[S209]

@S209 we've gone through this before (cue the wheel....) but do you care to elaborate on reasons to wear a mask when alone in a car?

1. To not be constantly touching the mask before washing your hands
2. For convenience to avoid copnstantly taking it on and off for a person who is not bothered by it
3. Because they will be picking up passengers shortly.

👆

[CountValentine]

Y'all wasting your time... don't you know all the doctors and the king governors are just lying to you? Covid is cancelled, there's herd immunity in NY/NJ. It wasn't even a huge price to pay, just the brain cells that control rational thought.

The logic is if an expert is wrong on one thing they are wrong on all things.
Cue the polls. 

[moish]

1. To not be constantly touching the mask before washing your hands
2. For convenience to avoid copnstantly taking it on and off for a person who is not bothered by it
3. Because they will be picking up passengers shortly.

And if wearing something like an N95, to ensure proper fit which is easier done in a house setting vs sitting in your car.

[gozalim]

No need to force this onto healthy people. People in the high risk category will take extra precautions anyways

those healthy peope have every likelihood of being asymptomatic vectors

[gozalim]

Oh, and CV spells and grammars like yeshivish

[chinagel]

בהשגחה פרטית this past week there's a Hayom Yom that some people struggle with, thinking that it somehow denies gravity:



In actuality, this doesn't at all deny gravity, and is probably fully in-line with current astrophysics. The Alter Rebbe isn't saying that gravity doesn't exist, he's saying that attributing not falling off the face of the earth on the other to gravity is the wrong answer. What the Alter Rebbe is saying is that the entire premise of question is wrong, as there is no real upper and lower side to earth.

IIRC the Rambam does not agree with gravity. It is only a theory.

[CountValentine]

Oh, and CV spells and grammars like yeshivish

Do you prefer "que" or "queue"?