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Re: Masks
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Re: Masks
« Reply #222 on: July 17, 2020, 03:04:21 PM »
IIRC the Rambam does not agree with gravity. It is only a theory.

Source?
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Re: Masks
« Reply #223 on: July 17, 2020, 03:22:01 PM »
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Re: Masks
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Re: Masks
« Reply #225 on: July 17, 2020, 04:04:14 PM »
https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/opinion/2020/07/17/just-wear-the-damn-mask-and-other-truths-from-actual-doctors.html?
Here's a reason not to wear a mask - if someone has antibodies and according to "studies" the antibodies seem to fade after a few months than maybe constantly getting exposed to the virus will keep the antibodies from disappearing! Like a booster shot - there are multiple articles out there very wary of any vaccine as the vaccine will wear off just like we're seeing with antibodies...

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Re: Masks
« Reply #226 on: July 17, 2020, 04:36:40 PM »
Here's a reason not to wear a mask - if someone has antibodies and according to "studies" the antibodies seem to fade after a few months than maybe constantly getting exposed to the virus will keep the antibodies from disappearing! Like a booster shot - there are multiple articles out there very wary of any vaccine as the vaccine will wear off just like we're seeing with antibodies...
That’s a nice explanation. Shame there’s zero scientific backing to it. Because that would mean constantly getting reinfected. Which is sort of the point of masks, to prevent infections.

Although I agree if you have antibodies you can make a strong argument not to wear a mask.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #227 on: July 18, 2020, 05:11:06 PM »
Although I agree if you have antibodies you can make a strong argument not to wear a mask.
Well, the problem with that is that the more people that don't wear masks, the more it causes others not to as well, including those that need to be wearing them.

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Re: Masks
« Reply #228 on: July 18, 2020, 10:45:12 PM »
Well, the problem with that is that the more people that don't wear masks, the more it causes others not to as well, including those that need to be wearing them.
That's social engineering, not medicine.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #229 on: July 18, 2020, 10:54:50 PM »
That’s a nice explanation. Shame there’s zero scientific backing to it. Because that would mean constantly getting reinfected. Which is sort of the point of masks, to prevent infections.

Although I agree if you have antibodies you can make a strong argument not to wear a mask.
Thank you - I wish I knew exactly how these Antibodies work. When you get exposed to the virus does your body completely repel the virus or does it fight it a bit - strenthing the antibodies...

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Re: Masks
« Reply #230 on: July 18, 2020, 11:11:17 PM »
Yesodei Hatorah 4; 2

How do you read into that a disagreement with gravity?
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Re: Masks
« Reply #231 on: July 18, 2020, 11:16:44 PM »
How do you read into that a disagreement with gravity?
דֶּרֶךְ הָאֵשׁ וְהָרוּחַ לִהְיוֹת מַהֲלָכָם מִמַּטָּה מִטַּבּוּר הָאָרֶץ לְמַעְלָה כְּלַפֵּי הָרָקִיעַ. וְדֶרֶךְ הַמַּיִם וְהָאָרֶץ לִהְיוֹת מַהֲלָכָם מִתַּחַת הָרָקִיעַ לְמַטָּה עַד לָאֶמְצַע.
Gravity explains the attraction as coming from the center of earth, Rambam is explaining it as the nature of the object itself.

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Re: Masks
« Reply #232 on: July 18, 2020, 11:22:06 PM »
דֶּרֶךְ הָאֵשׁ וְהָרוּחַ לִהְיוֹת מַהֲלָכָם מִמַּטָּה מִטַּבּוּר הָאָרֶץ לְמַעְלָה כְּלַפֵּי הָרָקִיעַ. וְדֶרֶךְ הַמַּיִם וְהָאָרֶץ לִהְיוֹת מַהֲלָכָם מִתַּחַת הָרָקִיעַ לְמַטָּה עַד לָאֶמְצַע.
Gravity explains the attraction as coming from the center of earth, Rambam is explaining it as the nature of the object itself.
Actually, gravity as explained by Newton is that objects are attracted to each other
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Re: Masks
« Reply #233 on: July 18, 2020, 11:57:08 PM »
Actually, gravity as explained by Newton is that objects are attracted to each other
Are you saying that changes anything or just observing?

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Re: Masks
« Reply #234 on: July 19, 2020, 12:00:58 AM »
Are you saying that changes anything or just observing?
The latter :)
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Re: Masks
« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2020, 01:37:42 AM »
Gravity explains the attraction as coming from the center of earth
Not true


 
דֶּרֶךְ הָאֵשׁ וְהָרוּחַ לִהְיוֹת מַהֲלָכָם מִמַּטָּה מִטַּבּוּר הָאָרֶץ לְמַעְלָה כְּלַפֵּי הָרָקִיעַ. וְדֶרֶךְ הַמַּיִם וְהָאָרֶץ לִהְיוֹת מַהֲלָכָם מִתַּחַת הָרָקִיעַ לְמַטָּה עַד לָאֶמְצַע.
It can still be true even if they were pulled by the center of earth
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Re: Masks
« Reply #237 on: July 19, 2020, 11:44:19 AM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298



Amazing. Almost like anti-vaxers.

Masks protect OTHERS from infected people wearing them. Just like the vaccines protect the anti-vaxers because a large percentage has built-up immunity.
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Re: Masks
« Reply #238 on: July 19, 2020, 12:28:57 PM »
And like with vaccines, when the other 97 precent are covered, you can skip

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