Author Topic: Masks  (Read 160865 times)

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17397
  • Total likes: 14334
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Masks
« Reply #300 on: August 27, 2020, 11:27:11 PM »
Heard from a Rov in the name of an infectious diseases Dr in his kehila that he is seeing staph infections coming from reusing masks too much.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline Euclid

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 4911
  • Total likes: 6141
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #301 on: August 27, 2020, 11:32:16 PM »
Heard from a Rov in the name of an infectious diseases Dr in his kehila that he is seeing staph infections coming from reusing masks too much.
Which type of masks? How could someone get a staph infection from a mask??

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17397
  • Total likes: 14334
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Masks
« Reply #302 on: August 27, 2020, 11:59:11 PM »
Which type of masks? How could someone get a staph infection from a mask??
But sure but guessing cloth masks which get staph in the organic matter caught in them.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline Euclid

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 4911
  • Total likes: 6141
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #303 on: August 28, 2020, 12:01:29 AM »
But sure but guessing cloth masks which get staph in the organic matter caught in them.
Interesting. Don't think I've ever washed my ski facemask and my scarves. (That's probably a disgusting admission ;) )

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17397
  • Total likes: 14334
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Masks
« Reply #304 on: August 28, 2020, 12:12:25 AM »
Interesting. Don't think I've ever washed my ski facemask and my scarves. (That's probably a disgusting admission ;) )
Neither is anything close to the same scale
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline Euclid

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 4911
  • Total likes: 6141
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #305 on: August 28, 2020, 12:13:34 AM »
Neither is anything close to the same scale
100%. Was an observation I just had - never even thought about how germy they probably are.

Offline Kobe Bryant

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 3764
  • Total likes: 2280
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 17
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #306 on: August 28, 2020, 08:11:32 AM »
Which type of masks? How could someone get a staph infection from a mask??
Reusing masks. Same reason why disposable bags came back within a week of being banned in NY.

Offline moko

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 4567
  • Total likes: 1484
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: BOS
Re: Masks
« Reply #307 on: August 28, 2020, 12:21:48 PM »
June 3 follow-up from the authors of that letter: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836

TO THE EDITOR:
We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.4

We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. A growing body of research shows that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is strongly correlated with the duration and intensity of contact: the risk of transmission among household members can be as high as 40%, whereas the risk of transmission from less intense and less sustained encounters is below 5%.5-7 This finding is also borne out by recent research associating mask wearing with less transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in closed settings.8 We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods.

Michael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H.
Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA

Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H.
Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Boston, MA

Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.
Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA
worth a mention that Dr Klompass is an ehrliche frum doctor who regularly davens at an outdoor tent minyan WITH MASKS

Online etech0

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 12861
  • Total likes: 3316
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: not lakewood
  • Programs: DDF
Re: Masks
« Reply #308 on: August 28, 2020, 12:24:10 PM »
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

Offline Kobe Bryant

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 3764
  • Total likes: 2280
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 17
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #309 on: September 01, 2020, 10:04:42 PM »

Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 5054
  • Total likes: 6390
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Masks
« Reply #310 on: September 01, 2020, 10:09:28 PM »


This has nothing to do with masks and everything to do with hypocritical politicians thinking that they are special.
Failing at maintaining Lurker status.

Offline biscotti

  • DansDeals Copper Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2020
  • Posts: 14
  • Total likes: 20
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #311 on: September 01, 2020, 10:42:48 PM »


Totally owned the libs! At least Trump was consistent in refusing to tell the public to wear masks until July 21, one of many failures that resulted in rampant spread of the virus and thousands of preventable deaths.

Which is it, Pelosi? Were you lying about the importance of wearing masks or were you incapable of following your own agenda?

Either way, I'll take a person who failed to prevent thousands of deaths over a hypocrite like Pelosi any day!

Offline S209

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2016
  • Posts: 7469
  • Total likes: 3930
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Gowns By Shevy
  • Location: Lakewood
  • Programs: Marriott Gold, Star Alliance Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC, National EE, Rock Royalty Wild Card, Wyndham Diamond, MLife Gold, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Uber VIP, IHG Platinum Elite, ANA Platinum, DDF Lifetime Prez Platinum Elite, AmEx Platinum
Re: Masks
« Reply #312 on: September 01, 2020, 10:47:35 PM »
Totally owned the libs! At least Trump was consistent in refusing to tell the public to wear masks until July 21, one of many failures that resulted in rampant spread of the virus and thousands of preventable deaths.

Which is it, Pelosi? Were you lying about the importance of wearing masks or were you incapable of following your own agenda?

Either way, I'll take a person who failed to prevent thousands of deaths over a hypocrite like Pelosi any day!
Loving how many new members earn their stripes on the Coronavirus board
Quote from: YitzyS
Quotes in a signature is annoying, as it comes across as an independent post.

Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 5054
  • Total likes: 6390
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Masks
« Reply #313 on: September 01, 2020, 10:50:46 PM »
Loving how many new members earn their stripes on the Coronavirus board

@biscotti has already been accused of being a CV clone and perpetually making @YitzyS crave carbs, and also being a flaming liberal. This cat's stripes have been painted already.
Failing at maintaining Lurker status.

Offline Euclid

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 4911
  • Total likes: 6141
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Masks
« Reply #314 on: September 01, 2020, 10:53:05 PM »
@biscotti has already been accused of being a CV clone and perpetually making @YitzyS crave carbs, and also being a flaming liberal. This cat's stripes have been painted already.
Pretty sure all Covid believers have been "exposed" as CV clones at least once.

Offline S209

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2016
  • Posts: 7469
  • Total likes: 3930
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Gowns By Shevy
  • Location: Lakewood
  • Programs: Marriott Gold, Star Alliance Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC, National EE, Rock Royalty Wild Card, Wyndham Diamond, MLife Gold, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Uber VIP, IHG Platinum Elite, ANA Platinum, DDF Lifetime Prez Platinum Elite, AmEx Platinum
Re: Masks
« Reply #315 on: September 01, 2020, 10:54:13 PM »
@biscotti has already been accused of being a CV clone and perpetually making @YitzyS crave carbs, and also being a flaming liberal. This cat's stripes have been painted already.
His frum credentials have also been questioned, but then
@biscotti has already been accused of being a CV clone
Quote from: YitzyS
Quotes in a signature is annoying, as it comes across as an independent post.

Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 5054
  • Total likes: 6390
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Masks
« Reply #316 on: September 01, 2020, 10:56:07 PM »
Pretty sure all Covid believers have been "exposed" as CV clones at least once.

The trick to avoid that is to argue with him incessantly.
Failing at maintaining Lurker status.

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17397
  • Total likes: 14334
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Masks
« Reply #317 on: September 01, 2020, 10:58:53 PM »
Totally owned the libs! At least Trump was consistent in refusing to tell the public to wear masks until July 21, one of many failures that resulted in rampant spread of the virus and thousands of preventable deaths.

Which is it, Pelosi? Were you lying about the importance of wearing masks or were you incapable of following your own agenda?

Either way, I'll take a person who failed to prevent thousands of deaths over a hypocrite like Pelosi any day!

What does Trump have to do with this? How do his failures change anything about Pelosi?

Some here would give this one a "But officer he was speeding too"

I'm sure you do understand that the hypocrisy of many politicians in supporting protests but disallowing religious gatherings is probably the biggest contributor to all restrictions falling apart.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 5054
  • Total likes: 6390
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Masks
« Reply #318 on: September 01, 2020, 11:03:31 PM »
What does Trump have to do with this? How do his failures change anything about Pelosi?

Some here would give this one a "But officer he was speeding too"

I'm sure you do understand that the hypocrisy of many politicians in supporting protests but disallowing religious gatherings is probably the biggest contributor to all restrictions falling apart.

+1, but got a like for the great sarcasm. Trump and Pelosi will spend plenty of time together in the hot place. There are no saints here.

Don't look now, but yet another thread turned political and no one can blame @CountValentine.
Failing at maintaining Lurker status.

Offline biscotti

  • DansDeals Copper Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2020
  • Posts: 14
  • Total likes: 20
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Masks
« Reply #319 on: September 01, 2020, 11:21:58 PM »
What does Trump have to do with this? How do his failures change anything about Pelosi?

Some here would give this one a "But officer he was speeding too"

I'm sure you do understand that the hypocrisy of many politicians in supporting protests but disallowing religious gatherings is probably the biggest contributor to all restrictions falling apart.

The video was posted on youtube... by Donald Trump. That's why he's relevant. It's intended to own the libs and gain support, and to make people feel better about voting for him. But intelligent viewers might realize that the damage caused Pelosi's hypocrisy pales in comparison to the damage caused by his incompetence.

Of course Pelosi was stupid and hypocritical. But people watch this and think Trump is on the right side of the coronavirus and Pelosi is on the wrong side. And that's what bothers me - it takes so much blindness and delusion and just general disbelief of reality to believe that's the case.

@Lurker it was political before I made it political.