Seminary/Yeshiva Israel Rebbeim

[Yonah]

It’s common sense: IYH Israel will be able to flatten the curve and stop the virus and go back so a semblance of normalcy come May/June. However, Israel will not want any potential carriers coming and restarting the whole spread again. So the shut borders are going to stay with us long after the quarantine is officially over. Only Israelis will be allowed to enter, and will be made to quarantine for 2 weeks, seemingly at a designated hotel.

Again - what's the source? Are you simply speculating or have you read this somewhere? While I'm sure that the 'Chutznik Gap Year' brings less than a blip to Israel's economy, at some point Israel needs to re-open up to tourism. Don't know if it's going to wait that long - I would think that beyond the summer (which is probably currently not happening) the two biggest travel seasons to Israel are RH/YK/Succos for Jews, and the end of December for non-jews. Can't imagine Israel will forgo both of those seasons.

That beings said, I'm sure that COVID19 vaccines will be required of both students and visitors once they become available.

[yaakov35]

Again - what's the source? Are you simply speculating or have you read this somewhere? While I'm sure that the 'Chutznik Gap Year' brings less than a blip to Israel's economy, at some point Israel needs to re-open up to tourism. Don't know if it's going to wait that long.

He's just making it up. Like most people on ddf, fear mongering and flat out lies. Throw in a WhatsApp voice note about some guy shutting down the country, and you'll have it figured out

[YesThatsMe]

He's just making it up. Like most people on ddf, fear mongering and flat out lies. Throw in a WhatsApp voice note about some guy shutting down the country, and you'll have it figured out

I am using logic to arrive at my conclusion. I am Israeli and have avidly followed this situation. I have a few apartments in Israel and my tenants are all foreigners. If I wanted to be optimistic i'd gain a lot more. But realistically, given the steps the Israeli government took and is taking, they will NOT open their border to risk of reinfection.

All economic concerns in Israel has been thrown out the window. Pesach too is a huge season (though not necessary a Chareidi one), and they are forgoing it. It won't be different for the 4,000-6,000 Chareidi families that come Tishrei time.

[PlatinumGuy]

There is no use guessing when this will be over because it depends on entirely unknown factors of testing & vaccinations.

[Afrages6]

I am using logic to arrive at my conclusion. I am Israeli and have avidly followed this situation. I have a few apartments in Israel and my tenants are all foreigners. If I wanted to be optimistic i'd gain a lot more. But realistically, given the steps the Israeli government took and is taking, they will NOT open their border to risk of reinfection.

All economic concerns in Israel has been thrown out the window. Pesach too is a huge season (though not necessary a Chareidi one), and they are forgoing it. It won't be different for the 4,000-6,000 Chareidi families that come Tishrei time.

They definitely did give up Pesach, but who says that they are gonna be willing to give up sukkos as well as the December travel wave?

Economic concerns get harder to ignore as time goes on.

[aygart]

They definitely did give up Pesach, but who says that they are gonna be willing to give up sukkos as well as the December travel wave?

Economic concerns get harder to ignore as time goes on.

Summer?

[Ergel]

I will eat my hat if there are foreigners in Israel for the summer

[Yonah]

I am using logic to arrive at my conclusion. I am Israeli and have avidly followed this situation. I have a few apartments in Israel and my tenants are all foreigners. If I wanted to be optimistic i'd gain a lot more. But realistically, given the steps the Israeli government took and is taking, they will NOT open their border to risk of reinfection.

All economic concerns in Israel has been thrown out the window. Pesach too is a huge season (though not necessary a Chareidi one), and they are forgoing it. It won't be different for the 4,000-6,000 Chareidi families that come Tishrei time.

I now see where you are coming from. I imagine time will tell. Part of the story is at what point does china re-open its borders - that might give a better sense.

Summer?

FWIW - I've heard that at least a few summer camp programs in Israel have already been canceled. I suspect that those that haven't will be canceled shortly after pesach.

I can't imagine any camps / summer learning programs/ etc. are going to run this summer in Israel. No guarantees that a family visit would be viable either - but understand, I am one of the optimistic people here, thinking that maybe borders will re-open by september.

[Lurker]

I can't imagine any camps / summer learning programs/ etc. are going to run this summer in Israel.

FTFY

[AsherO]

There is no use guessing when this will be over because it depends on entirely unknown factors of testing & vaccinations.

Don’t vaccinations have a minimum, 9-12 months from beginning of clinical trials on humans?

[Yonah]

FTFY

To be fair, this is a thread about Yeshiva/Sem, and the question was asked specifically about Israel. But I highly suspect that my kids camps here will be canceled as well.

Again, a lot of them are hoping that they do run, and are probably going to drag this out until at least the end of April before cancelling.

[ExGingi]

I will eat my hat if there are foreigners in Israel for the summer

Noted.

[AsherO]

I will eat my hat if there are foreigners in Israel for the summer

What kind of hat do you wear? Not sure animal felts are kosher...

[Yonah]

This leads me to another question...

If next year (or even this summer) doesn't happen for Yeshivas/Seminaries/Camps - how can they survive to the following year?

[aygart]

[YesThatsMe]

This leads me to another question...

If next year (or even this summer) doesn't happen for Yeshivas/Seminaries/Camps - how can they survive to the following year?

How is anyone going to survive the coming recession? Israel announced this morning they are at 25% unemployment now. We are all in this together.

[Afrages6]

This leads me to another question...

If next year (or even this summer) doesn't happen for Yeshivas/Seminaries/Camps - how can they survive to the following year?

I’m sure some of them won’t be able too

[Lurker]

This leads me to another question...

If next year (or even this summer) doesn't happen for Yeshivas/Seminaries/Camps - how can they survive to the following year?

They'll be like any other business. There will be tens of thousands of restaurants and retail establishments that won't be able to reopen after this. Any business that took MCAs or other money that is non or semi regulated will have staggeringly insurmountable debt. And in their places will pop up new schools and businesses to fill the gap.

[mercaz1]

they are also not paying any expenses besides the property taxes om the camp grounds so they might be able to survive

[dealfinder11]

they are also not paying any expenses besides the property taxes om the camp grounds so they might be able to survive

huh? what about mortgage? insurance? Bear in mind most camps rely on 2 months a year to pay a 12 month mortgage (with some recently starting to profit off school "shabbatons").