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Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« on: April 07, 2020, 01:24:29 AM »
https://twitter.com/LakewoodScoop/status/1247368774593937410

Too many stories like this. Shiurim have been hijacked by Nazis and all kinds of highly objectionable content.

I'm not going to bother linking, ('cause I'm lazy) but Zoom has lied about some of its security measures, such as end to end encryption, and other things. If you need to have an interactive class, Zoom is useful and has great tools, but make sure it is password protected. If it's just a few of you, Whatsapp, Facetime, etc. are better. Try Google meetings for interactive video conferencing.

For streaming use Facebook, Youtube, Periscope or any of the other dozen programs and services there are out there.

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 01:28:11 AM »
Aren't there steps you can take to avoid zoombombing?
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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2020, 01:32:35 AM »
Aren't there steps you can take to avoid zoombombing?

Yeah, not using zoom.

But yeah, I believe there are. I haven't done extensive research, and clearly others aren't either, or they aren't aware of the problem until it's too late. But I would imagine password protection would do it, and if you have too many people to require a password, wouldn't a stream be better anyway?

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2020, 01:36:54 AM »
https://twitter.com/LakewoodScoop/status/1247368774593937410

Too many stories like this. Shiurim have been hijacked by Nazis and all kinds of highly objectionable content.

I'm not going to bother linking, ('cause I'm lazy) but Zoom has lied about some of its security measures, such as end to end encryption, and other things. If you need to have an interactive class, Zoom is useful and has great tools, but make sure it is password protected. If it's just a few of you, Whatsapp, Facetime, etc. are better. Try Google meetings for interactive video conferencing.

For streaming use Facebook, Youtube, Periscope or any of the other dozen programs and services there are out there.
The NYC education dept requested that Schools stop using Zoom because of the security issues

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2020, 01:38:41 AM »
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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2020, 01:45:40 AM »
i got an email from them that the password and waiting room features are on now by default

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2020, 01:51:30 AM »
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Waiting room feature is not practical for streaming a funeral to hundreds of people.

Most of the people using zoom now can easily use another service that not only doesn't lose functionality, you don't have to jump through any hoops.

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2020, 01:54:42 AM »
Zoom is not practical for streaming a funeral to hundreds of people.
FTFY

Zoom is a meeting service, not a streaming service.

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2020, 01:56:52 AM »
FTFY

Zoom is a meeting service, not a streaming service.
Right, as stated in my OP

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2020, 01:58:14 AM »
Waiting room feature is not practical for streaming a funeral to hundreds of people.

Most of the people using zoom now can easily use another service that not only doesn't lose functionality, you don't have to jump through any hoops.
True, YouTube/FB live is much better for streaming.
Maybe this needs a DDMS PSA
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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 01:59:55 AM »
True, YouTube/FB live is much better for streaming.
Maybe this needs a DDMS PSA
Yeah, with those guidelines for people who need it for classes and conferencing

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2020, 02:09:12 AM »

Maybe this needs a DDMS PSA
yes yes make us another roundup before yom tov.

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2020, 02:09:44 AM »
True, YouTube/FB live is much better for streaming.
Maybe this needs a DDMS PSA
I think a general PSA should work without to many details.
I was on one and it was really ugly

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2020, 02:11:31 AM »
No we can’t. Zoom is keeping me sane these days (somewhat...)

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2020, 02:56:09 AM »
True, YouTube/FB live is much better for streaming.
Maybe this needs a DDMS PSA
Many people have filters that block YouTube/FB. I'm assuming that's the reason that Zoom is being used.

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2020, 08:11:54 AM »
Many people have filters that block YouTube/FB. I'm assuming that's the reason that Zoom is being used.
This.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2020, 09:05:49 AM »
This.
For the filter block 613tube as well?

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2020, 09:25:15 AM »
For the filter block 613tube as well?

My filter blocks live YouTube videos

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2020, 09:32:16 AM »
My filter blocks live YouTube videos
+1
And Twitter Live and Facebook Live.
But Zoom works.

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Re: Can we Stop Using Zoom?
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2020, 09:57:02 AM »
Our shul was also hacked by a few people showing Nazi content and worse than that too. First the host changed settings to block chatting and screen sharing.

When the hackers saw that, they just joined and we were able to to see their selfie video.

At this point, we are too fed up and are mostly using Zoom via call in telephone.

The damage that live zoom brings is far greater than the benefit. Period.

I also heard some Zoom schools with young children were hacked and shown inappropriate...