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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #460 on: April 28, 2020, 08:45:47 PM »
Cross River at least asked for some docs

Chase asked for almost nothing

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #461 on: April 28, 2020, 08:54:51 PM »
See this link: https://www.wendroffcpa.com/how-the-paycheck-protection-program-affects-self-employed-people/

If you are an SCorp owner, 1065 partnership owner, sole proprietor, independent contractor or gig worker, you qualify for a PPP loan:
1120S/S Corporation owners without employees other than themselves and who pay themselves salary and take a distribution.

Note that 1120S is eligible, but only if they take a salary.
Seems you can only get PPP or unemployment for self employed. Anyone know how much one will get on either one based in NJ on a 1065 (K-1)?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #462 on: April 28, 2020, 08:58:37 PM »
Seems you can only get PPP or unemployment for self employed. Anyone know how much one will get on either one based in NJ on a 1065 (K-1)?
Why not go for unemployment for the weeks before and after PPP? PPP is only for 8 weeks.

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #463 on: April 28, 2020, 08:58:41 PM »
Chase now has a Covid-19 update, PPP application status update in your chase business account.
I'm holding at stage 3, same as two weeks ago. Did anyone get a notification that there loan was funded in this new notification center?
What is stage 2 and stage 3? Where does the Chase website identify it as that?
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #464 on: April 28, 2020, 09:01:03 PM »
Anyone know how much one will get on either one based in NJ on a 1065 (K-1)?
Check box 14. If that's for the whole of 2019, divide by 12 and multiply by 2.5X to get your PPP.

For unemployment: use the same box 14 to calculate your average weekly wage and see https://myunemployment.nj.gov/before/about/calculator/

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #465 on: April 28, 2020, 09:02:14 PM »
Why not go for unemployment for the weeks before and after PPP? PPP is only for 8 weeks.
and how long is unemployment for?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #466 on: April 28, 2020, 09:10:07 PM »
Why not go for unemployment for the weeks before and after PPP? PPP is only for 8 weeks.
Is 8 weeks going to be enough for most small businesses?
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #467 on: April 28, 2020, 09:11:18 PM »
and how long is unemployment for?
Usually 26, CARES Act added additional 13 weeks for a total of 39.

Additional $600/weekly is only available for claims between 3/28 through 7/31. Exact dates differ by a week up or down by state.

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #468 on: April 28, 2020, 09:14:52 PM »
What is stage 2 and stage 3? Where does the Chase website identify it as that?

From a email I got.

Dear Business Client,

We're following up on the status of your application for a Paycheck Protection Program loan. We know how important these funds would be to your business and we hope this update gives you some insight into the processes both here at Chase and the SBA.

We continue to monitor congressional actions for a possible new round of funding for the program. We also will keep processing as many applications as possible so we will be ready to submit them if new funding becomes available.
Here is the high-level overview of the review and approval process:

Here's the update on your application:
Current Status: Stage 2, Payroll review
Our process: We are working through our inquiry and application queue. We are now reviewing the documents you provided demonstrating your payroll amounts.

What you should expect: Our team is manually reviewing your payroll documentation. Once we complete our review, we'll be ready to send your application to the SBA for approval if additional funding becomes available for the program.

You don't have to do anything else now. If we have questions as we're reviewing your application, we'll email you. In the meantime, we'll keep updating chase.com/cares with the latest information.
Thank you for being a Chase customer.

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #469 on: April 28, 2020, 09:16:12 PM »
Is 8 weeks going to be enough for most small businesses?

No, but that’s what was legislated one the cares act: A loan of 2.5x monthly payroll, with forgiveness requiring 75% of the loan to go towards (8weeks of?) payroll.
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #470 on: April 28, 2020, 09:17:23 PM »
My guess is many people with who applied with Chase after the initial $$ ran out won’t get their loan, unless something changes or more money is approved for PPP.
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #471 on: April 28, 2020, 09:50:21 PM »
When the bank KNOWS you there is little they need about YOU
I am talking about signing the  loan docs. With Dime you sign everything upon submitting the app.
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #472 on: April 28, 2020, 10:18:59 PM »
What is stage 2 and stage 3? Where does the Chase website identify it as that?
From my email from Chase:
Here's the update on your application:
Current Status: Stage 3, Awaiting SBA approval
What you should expect: We completed our review of the documents you provided demonstrating your payroll amounts and are ready to send your application to the SBA if additional funding becomes available for the program.
From April 19th

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #473 on: April 28, 2020, 10:44:32 PM »
applied the first day possible.  still nothing   same filing status as you

same. i just got a CP today so i expect the $1k to hit at some point shortly

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #474 on: April 28, 2020, 10:58:11 PM »
2 friends of mine who applied for EIDL on 4/4 received funds in their accounts today. One got $8,000 (he has 8 employees) the other one is self employeed and got $1000.   I applied the same day, self employeed with 0 employees and nothing so far.  Anyone else apply on 4/4 and nothing yet?

Applied for EIDL on 4/1. Heard nothing. Credit check on 4/22. Advance in bank on 4/23. No email. Just woke up and it was there.

What were the first 5 digits of your application number? I heard they are rolling it out first come first serve. Mine was 33011XXXXX. How much higher are you?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #475 on: April 28, 2020, 11:02:34 PM »
same. i just got a CP today so i expect the $1k to hit at some point shortly
When did you apply?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #476 on: April 28, 2020, 11:02:42 PM »
To all those who applied with Dime, who did you put as a reference? They have a very thorough application

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #477 on: April 28, 2020, 11:11:58 PM »
RE: PPP, Can anyone confirm confidently that payroll for Part-Time employees is forgivable? Getting mixed answers, with one site advising that this will be up to SBA determination.
(In regards to the 500 employee count it is clear that PT is included)

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #478 on: April 28, 2020, 11:14:32 PM »
To all those who applied with Dime, who did you put as a reference? They have a very thorough application

Reference? All the way at the end they allow you to optionally add someone (an authorized contact) to discuss your application with, an agent, relative, accountant etc. I just put my own info there, maybe I was rushing and didn't do it right.
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #479 on: April 28, 2020, 11:16:31 PM »
Reference? All the way at the end they allow you to optionally add someone to discuss your application with, an agent, relative, accountant etc. I just put my own info there, maybe I was rushing and didn't do it right.
Did exactly the same. Didnt see any request for reference.
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