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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1720 on: June 18, 2020, 08:45:20 PM »
Even the same employee. since the 46k you apply for forgivness will be reduced by lets say 30%, to 31K, however you only received 20k in the loan for the employee=full forgivness

So this whole "wage level" req is a scam. It's really "as long as you spend 8 weeks of payroll over 24 weeks you're fine"...

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1721 on: June 18, 2020, 09:51:07 PM »
Anyone received EIDL advance/loan on more than 1 business with same owner?

Yes

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1722 on: June 18, 2020, 09:59:23 PM »
Anyone received EIDL advance/loan on more than 1 business with same owner?
Yes

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1723 on: June 18, 2020, 11:22:18 PM »
So this whole "wage level" req is a scam. It's really "as long as you spend 8 weeks of payroll over 24 weeks you're fine"...

Basically, by passing a law extending forgiveness to 24 weeks without thinking it through, they rolled back some of the workforce/payroll protections in the initial formulation.
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1724 on: June 18, 2020, 11:38:01 PM »
Basically, by passing a law extending forgiveness to 24 weeks without thinking it through, they rolled back some of the workforce/payroll protections in the initial formulation.

Very disappointing.
When I initially read through the new forgiveness application I saw there's about 10 steps to get to the wage reduction, so I figured it was built in there to take into account the 24 weeks.

Working on an excel version of the forgiveness application to simplify calcs.

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1725 on: June 18, 2020, 11:39:45 PM »
Working on an excel version of the forgiveness application to simplify calcs.

Nice.
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1726 on: June 19, 2020, 12:29:50 AM »
Very disappointing.
When I initially read through the new forgiveness application I saw there's about 10 steps to get to the wage reduction, so I figured it was built in there to take into account the 24 weeks.

Working on an excel version of the forgiveness application to simplify calcs.
They are still working on options how to get rid of the 140 Billion that congress approved and nobody is taking, you want they should take back funds?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1727 on: June 19, 2020, 12:31:44 AM »
They are still working on options how to get rid of the 140 Billion that congress approved and nobody is taking, you want they should take back funds?

Increase everyone’s PPP proportionately now that forgiveness has gone up (with the 24-week option)?
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1728 on: June 19, 2020, 12:47:21 AM »
Yes
Real Estate owned by a trust can the trust apply?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1729 on: June 19, 2020, 12:51:50 AM »
Dont know what the SBA thinks when they are asking ppl to sign on the EIDL loan docs the following paragraph for the next 30 years....
Maybe they can just build a prison gate around USA or a Mexican wall...


LIMITS ON DISTRIBUTION OF ASSETS
·        Borrower will not, without the prior written consent of SBA, make any distribution of Borrower’s assets, or give
any preferential treatment, make any advance, directly or indirectly, by way of loan, gift, bonus, or otherwise, to
any owner or partner or any of its employees, or to any company directly or indirectly controlling or affiliated
with or controlled by Borrower, or any other company.

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1730 on: June 19, 2020, 12:56:34 AM »
Real Estate owned by a trust can the trust apply?

did u have employees in each company?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1732 on: June 19, 2020, 01:19:34 AM »

2) If your loan is disbursed after 06/05/20 your covered period is automatically 24 weeks from your disbursement date (can't go past 12/31/20 though). These dates are noted on the forgiveness application, not on the loan application.


What about before 06/05? I get to choose on the forgiveness app?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1733 on: June 19, 2020, 01:20:27 AM »
Increase everyone’s PPP proportionately now that forgiveness has gone up (with the 24-week option)?

That would be great, I wouldn’t mind another 8 weeks of pay

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1734 on: June 19, 2020, 01:23:28 AM »
That would be great, I wouldn’t mind another 8 weeks of pay

It would be an additional 1-2 weeks...
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1735 on: June 19, 2020, 01:23:45 AM »
In NY any SE who elects a 24-week period and received less than $12,096 in PPP should be able to stay on UI as long as they work 3 days or less weekly.

Is there another thread for UI? Wondering like this - I’ve gotten paid 4 times over the past 3 months from two diff companies on 1099, can I apply for UI? What days throughout this time would be considered employed & what not?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1736 on: June 19, 2020, 01:26:38 AM »
It would be an additional 1-2 weeks...

Why? My 8 was off also but if we’d be able to get payroll forgiven for 24 weeks that would be awesome

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1737 on: June 19, 2020, 01:37:33 AM »
Why? My 8 was off also but if we’d be able to get payroll forgiven for 24 weeks that would be awesome
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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1738 on: June 19, 2020, 01:54:20 AM »
If someone self employed got the eidl grant of $1000, and then applies for ppp loan, and gets 5000 that should be forgiven, will he get the 5000 forgiven, or do they count the 1000 eidl grant and will only forgive $4000?

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Re: SBA PPP and EIDL Small Business Loans (some money is forgivable)
« Reply #1739 on: June 19, 2020, 02:12:29 AM »
If someone self employed got the eidl grant of $1000, and then applies for ppp loan, and gets 5000 that should be forgiven, will he get the 5000 forgiven, or do they count the 1000 eidl grant and will only forgive $4000?
only 4k